Hessdalen, David Seaman, Truth, Stones, The Divine In Us

 

 

 

 

“There is nothing new to be discovered in physics now. All that remains is more and more precise measurement.” This statement was made by Lord Kelvin in 1900 and shattered only five years later when Einstein published his paper on special relativity. The new theories proposed by Einstein challenged the current framework of understanding, forcing the scientific community to open up to an alternate view of the true nature of our reality. This serves as a great example of how things that are taken to be truth can suddenly change to fiction.

“Lord Kelvin’s statements bare with it the voice of paradigms past … We knew that the Earth was flat, we knew that we were the center of the universe, and we knew that a man-made heavier than air piece of machinery could not take flight. Through all stages of human history, intellectual authorities have pronounced their supremacy by ridiculing or suppressing elements of reality that simply didn’t fit within the framework of accepted knowledge.

Are we really any different today? Have we really changed our acceptance towards things that won’t fit the frame? Maybe there are concepts of our reality we have yet to understand, and if we open our eyes maybe we will see that something significant has been overlooked.” – Terje Toftenes

Known as the Hessdalen Interactive Observatory, scientists at the University of Ostfold, Hessdalen, Norway have captured and documented many strange anomalies that seem to plague the area. It’s the only official 24 hour UFO observatory in the world. Radar and cameras have tracked and filmed numerous unexplainable phenomenon, the fastest one recorded at 30,000 km per hour. (Faster than any known air-craft today.)

The example you see in the video below is known as the “Hessdalen phenomenon.” In September of 2007, a major survey was carried out by university scientists and students with a number of observation instruments. On the fourth night, the phenomenon decided to show up for them, up close.

The first UFO you see is not the one that showed up for the scientists and students working in the field, it comes shortly after that. The footage below is from a documentary called The Day Before Disclosure by Norwegian filmmaker Terje Toftenes.

 watch the full documentary and learn more about it.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/02/01/raw-footage-of-ufos-captured-at-observatory-in-norway/

 

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Readers may have noticed that I posted several youtube videos by David Seaman, who is a Donald Trump supporter who was one of the early investigators of the Comet Ping Pong /Pizzagate scandal that came out of the Wikileaks release of emails that featured the Podestas, Spirit Cooking, and so forth.

He’s an independent journalist, and a courageous and outspoken kind of guy. I don’t like nor dislike him, no reason to do either, I just posted his videos because he was conveying the information in a more coherent form than most.

But now he’s moved on a little, from the paedophile and child trafficking stuff, to his theories about the Illuminati, and what may or may not be down there in Antarctica, that seems to be attracting the interest of people like John Kerry.

Well, thing is, by Seaman’s twitter photo, he has his statement ‘I tell the truth. Always.’ Which sort of set me off thinking…

I mean, I tend to feel more comfortable with myself, in my daily existence, if I have a self-image as someone who is honest, honourable, decent, and so forth. So, ‘telling the truth’ sort of goes along with that. I’m not a person who habitually tells untruths, lies, just for the sake of it, or to avoid awkward embarrassment.

But to tell the truth, ALWAYS ? That’s something else. I mean, if some people came along who were intent on catching and killing people whom I loved, who were hidden somewhere, and demanded that I tell the truth, well, I would lie convincingly, and take whatever consequences happened to follow. I don’t think telling ‘the truth’ under ALL circumstances is at all an intelligent moral position to hold to.

You know, there’s diplomacy involved. If the woman says ‘Does my bum look fat in this ?’ and you tell her ‘Yes, dreadfully fat’, that is not being diplomatic or kind, you have to be able to conjure up some tact and tell her the answer that make her happy and glowing. Not the answer that makes her miserable and means that she’ll make you miserable too. Is that a white lie, a black lie, or a sort of blurry grey lie tinted with wisdom and generosity ?

More generally, what the heck is ‘truth’ ? It’s an abstraction, and fairly meaningless until applied to a particular case. And there’s different sorts, like proximate truth and ultimate truth. And in Buddhism, it’s acknowledged that there is the conventional common truth that serves the ordinary people, and then there is the ultimate truth, which is what the enlightened buddhas discern. And the point of buddhist teaching and doctrine is to move from the former to the latter.

Life would be so much easier if we knew the exact truth about so many puzzling questions. I’ve spent my whole life – or so it seems – trying to figure out what the heck is really going on. I’m more than twice Seaman’s age, so maybe I’m more practised in this pursuit.

In the earlier essay, I mentioned the pleasure I derive from the Flat Earth theorists. It gives me a buzz that a whole bunch of folk have the nerve to re-investigate the whole matter with energy, determination and rigour. I mean, whatever the result, I respect and admire the enterprise. But Seamen has dismissed the whole issue as bullshit, and thinks it’s a deliberate distraction to conceal the pedogate stuff. Well, that’s no good, is it. The Flat Earthers were around long before the Podesta leaks.

Trouble is, he just doesn’t get it. He states that you can prove the Earth is round, if you go high up in a plane and see the curve, or send a GoPro camera up with a balloon. That sort of thing. But if you watch the video here, there are far more problems that need to be addressed, before the Flat Earth folk would accept that conclusion.

I’m not going to get into all of that, but essentially, what Seaman is saying is ‘Trust your eyes’. But that’s not it, is it. You know, we have had four hundred years or so of science, now, and if we learned anything, it’s that you cannot ‘trust your eyes’, because there’s all kinds of stuff that is invisible, from very large distant things that need telescopes to see, to very small things, that need microscopes, and all kinds of stuff that require special instruments to detect, like infra red, ultra violet, radio waves, and so forth.

As I mention from time to time, I’m a perspectivist. That means that, for me, it is kind of absurd to insist that the Earth must be a binary choice of either flat or round.

If you don’t know what perspectivism is, I shall try to explain what I mean.

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Take a thing like a house. I’m sitting inside this cottage now, as I write. I know it belongs to the class of items called houses. But that’s an abstraction. Abstractions exist in our mental domain, not out there in the (so called) reality. If I get up and go outside and then look back, I can see the house that I was previously sitting inside.

But is it the same house ? How can it be, if it now looks completely different ? ‘Same’ things should have the same appearance, if they are ‘the same’. And if I walk around outside this house, observing it, every step that I take, it changes. And if I was to fly up above, and get the bird’s eye view, or nowadays, a drone cam view, again it would look very different.

And if it was a nice day and I spent an hour drawing sketches of this cottage, the drawings would also be ‘this house’ but they’d look entirely different to say, a photograph, or an architect’s plan, or Google Earth satellite view of the same house.

So, my point is, there are very, very many ways to view what is – supposedly – the same thing. If someone else came here, and saw the house afresh for the first time, their impression will be different to my own, having been familiar with it all for decades.

All I am saying, or trying to illustrate, is that with this plethora of possible perspectives, how could anyone claim that any one viewpoint is ‘the truth’ about this thing called ‘my house’ ?

Any single choice would be far from adequate, if you really wanted to know, understand, comprehend, this house, in any degree of depth. And I believe that this principle applies to all things in all cases. It’s universally true.

Given all that, how could I ‘tell the truth’ about this house, in the sense that Seaman says that he always tells the truth ? It’s not such a simple matter, is it ? Even if I attempt to avoid any lies (like saying it has more rooms than actually exist) I still cannot convey to you more than a few fragmentary glimpses that might assist you to grasp what does exist, and thus let you build up some kind of mental model that has some kind of (problematic) relationship with the ‘real’ house.

What you see, will be your own. I mean, if, say, you were an experienced student of traditional British architecture, you’ll see a vernacular Welsh cottage. But, if say, you had no such training or interest, and you like cool apartments in ultra-modern city skyscrapers as dwelling places, then maybe you see a tumble down peasant hovel.

So I submit that this ‘truth’ thing is quite tricky. I have no idea if something amazing has been discovered in Antarctica, or not, or whether the Illuminati are going to try and use a sort of False Flag staged ‘discovery’, to try and distract us all from other issues. I think we are living in a sort of lunatic asylum, whether it be ultimately flat or round, and it is a struggle to know what to think and what to deduce and what to believe.

Bernie Sanders (for whom I have little respect) recently tweeted that there are no ‘alternative facts’, and muttered something about scientific facts. That was what people once wanted to believe. It’s simply ignorant and wrong. If there is such a thing as an isolated ‘fact’, then what matters, is what that fact MEANS. And to know what it means, you have to grasp it as nested within a context. And there’s almost always more than one context available.

You know, you need to be an idiot not to understand this, no ? If you claim that such and such was the case, as ‘a fact’, then it might be true or not, depending upon some other information, such as, was it daytime or night, and dark, because if the witness was unable to see and distinguish ‘the fact’, then obviously their ‘truth’ is suspect. This is why scientists and detectives try to collect as much information and data as possible, because the context matters, and defines what meanings facts have.

Here’s Ursula K. Le Guin, speaking from Northwest Portland :

A recent letter in The Oregonian compares a politician’s claim to tell “alternative facts” to the inventions of science fiction. The comparison won’t work.  We fiction writers make up stuff. Some of it clearly impossible, some of it realistic, but none of it real – all invented, imagined —  and we call it fiction because it isn’t fact. We may call some of it “alternative history” or “an alternate universe,” but make absolutely no pretense that our fictions are “alternative facts.”

Facts aren’t all that easy to come by. Honest scientists and journalists, among others, spend a lot of time trying to make sure of them.  The test of a fact is that it simply is so – it has no “alternative.”  The sun rises in the east.  To pretend the sun can rise in the west is a fiction, to claim that it does so as fact (or “alternative fact”) is a lie.

A lie is a non-fact deliberately told as fact.  Lies are told in order to reassure oneself, or to fool, or scare, or manipulate others. Santa Claus is a fiction.  He’s harmless. Lies are seldom completely harmless, and often very dangerous.  In most times, most places, by most people, liars are considered contemptible.

http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/02/ursula_leguin_on_fiction_vs_al.html

I think that she is mistaken about Santa Claus. Santa Claus has a long history. How can something or someone with a long history be fiction ? Santa Claus (Saint Nicholas)  derives from the palaeolithic shamans of the hunter gatherer and pastoralist reindeer herders, the people of the far north, and their beliefs.

Santa Claus has been embedded in culture for many centuries and generations, an influence upon countless millions, a shared motif and archetypal designator. That’s different to her own fiction which she spins anew from her own imaginings.

I suppose that a lot of this is semantics and how you define ‘exists’ or ‘fiction’ and so forth. I’m not inclined to join the majority of my own culture, when they divide up existence by such absurd classifications as posing ‘the natural’ against ‘the super-natural’. I think that is an absurd and false distinction that traces back to fallacies made centuries ago. I think that everything that a person experiences may as well be classified as ‘real’ and as ‘natural’ and that all that we know are these experiences that we have over the period between being born and dying.

You are, of course, at liberty to make up your own minds and come to your own conclusions regarding these kinds of philosophical conundrums. I’m just attempting to lay out my own conclusions, as best I can, amidst all the bewildering noise and confusion going on in this mental asylum we call ‘the world’.

Santa Claus is a concept, a mental notion, and as such not much different to many others, and they also have no tangible definite factual existence, but we use them all the time to try and make sense and communicate.

If you want to understand the nature of the thing that Santa Claus represents, then you need to dig and research and find the context. For example, the Deer Stones, where we see the reindeer that haul his sledge, and the source of the idea that he comes down through the smoke hole from the starry sky, bringing gifts.

http://www.si.edu/mci/english/research/conservation/deer_stones.html

Most scientists, materialists, rationalists, want their ‘facts’ to be secure and fixed, stuff they can measure. It was once the hope of the Logical Positivists that everything could be clarified and comprehended by this means. Unfortunately, that quest had to be abandoned, because it was thoroughly destroyed by its critics.

Imo, the easiest way to make sense of the differing ways that people have toward understanding ‘the world’, is to think of it as the left brain/right brain split. There are literal truths, Logos, and poetic truths, Mythos. They are of equal validity and importance to us, because we are human beings.  Santa Claus is a poetic truth, and valuable as such, because the concept gives insight into what we are, and helps us to deal with it. Ursula Le Guin knows this of course, because she authors fables, myths, parallel realities, that throw light upon the conventional and mundane worlds that many of us are forced to occupy.

In the Republic, Plato argues that the philosopher should ascend to the idea of the Good, which is another way of referencing the idea of transcendent Being, by a series of connected images, without specifying what those images might be. These images, as imperfect representations of Being, are subject to change. Matters are complicated by the fact that the things which are imaged are also subject to change. Thus both subjective impression and objective reality are subject to change and uncertainty.

In his dialogues, Plato shows that most arguments about the nature of the ultimate reality fail – particularly in his dialogue most concerned with Being, the Sophist. Here the participants in the dialogue agree to accept that a communion between man and the divine must be granted to exist, even if it cannot be argued certainly to be the case. The necessity of this communion is vital to religion, otherwise it is not possible for man to connect with the divine, and therefore he would be powerless in the world in which he finds himself.

A key characteristic of ancient religion was that it entertained conjecture regarding knowledge of the gods. Plato refers to this in his discussion of the divided line in The Republic. We cannot know Being itself directly. We cannot know the lesser gods directly either, but we can understand some of the characteristics of these gods, though full knowledge is necessarily beyond our understanding. We can approach some limited understanding of Being via the images and descriptions of the lesser gods however, which is one reason why they were deemed to have some kind of reality.

This limited set of characteristics and properties emerges from thorough and precise discussion of the nature of ontology (Being), as the focus of human conjecture. This is quite clear in both Plato and also in what we know of the teachings of Pythagoras. The paradox of knowledge is the consequence of the idea that all knowledge is present in the divine, and that we only have knowledge because we have a soul. In other words, we can have knowledge as the result of the divine having a presence in us already.

http://shrineinthesea.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/stone-circles-phenomenology-and.html

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415 Responses to Hessdalen, David Seaman, Truth, Stones, The Divine In Us

  1. ulvfugl says:

    Another point, re Le Guin’s example of a ‘fact’, that ‘the sun rises in the east’.

    That is not true. So we have someone claiming something is a fact, but it is not correct.

    The sun arises ‘over there’. The direction that you point towards, as being over there, is not fixed. It depends upon a ‘where and when’.

    The point where the sun emerges from the horizon changes every day, and how much, and when, depends upon where you are upon the surface of the planet.

    Here, where I am, it moves away from due east and down towards the south, a noticeable distance if you bother to notice, every day until it reaches the limit of its travel, then it begins to return toward due east, passes it and heads toward the north.

    There are additional complications. North, south, east, west, are social constructs which not everyone shares. The scientists, of course, will have established their own methodology for getting some precise measurement, relative to the Earth’s magnetic pole. But the Earth’s magnetic pole moves about, and sometimes flips, so north becomes south or vice versa.

    People use the Pole Star, to get their true north, but that also moves along with the Precession thingee, over the millennia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession#Astronomy

    We can glibly insist that ‘the sun always rises, blah blah’, because that’s what we have been told. But what if, one day, it doesn’t ?

    Can you guarantee 100% that it always will ? Please show your working. Especially if you are Nicholas Taleb.

    You know, ‘a fact’ is some sort of correspondence between an assertion and an observation. It might be causal or a correlation. It might change. Anybody can make assertions. Trying to get them to adhere to some aspect of what we laughingly call ‘reality’ is a lot more difficult. Probably best to regard most as being provisional and open to review.

    Truth might be defined as speech or text which accurately aligns with what the person honestly and sincerely believes to be the case. However, what the person believes might be mistaken, and then the ‘truth’ is incorrect.

    So how do you verify and achieve greater certainty ? It cannot be a consensus or a majority vote, can it, because multitudes of folk believe all kinds of crap that is easily shown to be wrong.

    Ask an ‘expert’ ? Do people still trust experts ?

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    In the Tang Dynasty Ch’an literature examples abound of enlightenment occurring after a short dialogue with a master, or after some kind of demonstrative action, such as a slap, a kick or a shout. For the effectiveness of the Ch’an method this is an important observation. When Xu Yun was travelling through the Chinese hills in his youth, he did not come across any masters of this calibre and so had to rely upon meditative practice. This is not an error, or an inferior practice. It must be borne in mind that many of the apparently spontaneous acts of enlightenment happened in an instant; this is true, but usually after many years of meditative experience. It is a general belief within Ch’an circles that modern living creates a layer of delusion within the mind that is particularly dense and difficult to break through. Therefore cases of spontaneous enlightenment, although not impossible are nevertheless a rare occurrence. Even the gongan – the recorded dialogue between an enlightened student and a Ch’an master – is often held in the mind as a meditative aid within certain lineages. That is to say that the record of a free-flowing enlightened exchange is converted from its spontaneous ‘freeing’ function, to that of a potentially long term meditative method whereby the dialogue is imagined within the mind with a certain intensity that is designed to draw all thoughts into ‘its’ structure, and therefore eventually free the mind by removing the obscuring layer, thus revealing the Mind Ground within. This kind of usage applies the gong-an as a method of thought absorption, whereas originally the very same dialogue (comprising the gong-an) was representative of a penetrating insight that was cutting through a student’s mind layer of obscuring delusion and revealing the Mind Ground immediately, without recourse to method or technique. Eventually, this re-application of the gong-an was refined further into the hua tou – an ingenious device designed to reveal the essence of thought itself.

    Of course, if one thought is used to reveal the Mind Ground, all thoughts are necessarily uprooted and delusion is smashed. The hua tou internalises the enlightened exchange to a more subtle degree. A question that bests suits the ego being uprooted is given to the student – in reality the question itself is of no relevance – as long as the question begins with the word ‘who’? Whereas the original gong-an usage demonstrates a non-specific penetrative technique of instantaneous ‘turning about’ within the mind, the gong-an as a meditative device seeks to draw all thoughts to its mental structure where they are dissolved in concentrative effort. The hua tou reduces all thoughts to ‘who?’, and through the power of enquiry implicit within the word, not only dissolves all thoughts, but carries the enquiry into the empty essence of the mind itself. Both the gong-an and hua tou methods are designed to be used by the aspirant independent of any other external assistance, regardless of whether a master is present or not. In many ways these innovative Ch’an methods are designed to achieve the same end as that of concentrating upon the breath found within early Buddhism. The main distinction is that the Ch’an methods contain an implicit driving force that is designed to push the concentrated awareness beyond the mere awareness of the object of meditation.

    The Ch’an method combines both tranquillity and insight meditation into one powerful practice. There are no levels as such, merely enlightenment and the lack of enlightenment, even though there may appear to be many expedient levels of development. The hua tou particularly aims to replicate the exact moment the enlightened master penetrates the previously deluded mind of the student – thus instantaneously wiping out all delusions and revealing the Mind Ground. The interesting thing about this is that the student is effectively enlightening himself.

    http://wenshuchan-online.weebly.com/biography-master-xu-yun-1840-1959.html

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    The Louvre museum in Paris has been cordoned off after a French soldier shot a man wielding a machete as he tried to force himself into a shopping mall at Paris’s Louvre museum in what looked like a terrorist attack, according to police officials. The man shouted “Allahu Akbar” (God is great) and attacked another soldier before being shot near the museum’s shopping mall, police said, adding a second person had also been detained after acting suspiciously.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-03/machete-wielding-man-shot-paris-louvre-after-attacking-soldier-shouting-allahu-akbar

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    At least two manager level Secret Service officials were fired and escorted from the White House complex, according to a report by reporter Steve Clemons.

    The Secret Service has been accused of slow-walking an investigation of an agent based in Denver who publicly stated she would not ‘take a bullet’ for President Donald Trump.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/breaking-report-secret-service-managers-fired-escorted-white-house-complex/

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    She’s a Professor

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    NEW ORLEANS — A human trafficking task force specially designed to attack the crime and rescue victims updating the New Orleans community on its latest two-day operation during a press conference Wednesday, February 1.

    The operation by the New Orleans Violent Crime against Children and Human Trafficking task force rescued 11 women in just two days. The victims range in age from their early 20s to late 40s.

    This sting focused on victims, so no arrests were made, but police said they are cracking down on human trafficking especially as more people travel to the city for Mardi Gras and the NBA All-Star Game weekend.

    http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/orleans/human-trafficking-task-force-rescues-11-women/395513221

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    A former Obama administration official, now linked to a Soros-funded foundation, has suggested Donald Trump be declared mentally unfit to hold office or overthrown in a military coup.
    Rosa Brooks, who served as Counselor to the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy from 2009-2011 and as a senior adviser in the State Department, outlined four ways to remove President Donald Trump from office, most notably by having him declared mentally unfit for office or by launching a military coup.
    Brooks now serves as the Schwartz senior fellow at New America, formerly the New America Foundation, a think-tank heavily funded by globalist billionaire George Soros. The Board of Directors of New America is currently chaired by Google CEO Eric Schmidt.

    http://www.infowars.com/soros-insider-demands-military-overthrow-trump/

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    Record high radiation levels that’s lethal even after brief exposure have been detected at a damaged reactor at the Fukushima power plant in Japan. Specialists also found a hole, likely caused by melted nuclear fuel.

    https://www.rt.com/news/376107-fukushima-record-radiation-level/

  16. ulvfugl says:

    aaaa @38.

    You seem to be unaware of the Kherson pogrom. On the day the US-controlled snipers were killing people on both sides in Kiev, people from Crimea were returning home from the Maidan. Near Kherson, their convoy of several coaches was stopped by a large group of Ukro-Nazis. The driver of the first coach was killed by a shotgun blast through the windscreen. All of the Crimeans on board were dragged out and beaten with clubs. Some of the coaches were torched.

    Given this, there is no surprise that the Crimeans wanted out of Ukraine. Russia had some intelligence people on the ground in Crimea. Once they were sure the majority of Crimeans were for the referendum, Russia provided minimal low level to allow it to go ahead.

    The Crimean Parliament building was protected by local part-time militia (sort of US national Guard) to ensure legal processes could be carried out. BTW, the Crimeans also asked for independence shortly after the independence of Ukraine but the Ukraine government rejected it.

    Posted by: Yonatan | Feb 3, 2017 8:17:48 AM | 100

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/02/crazy-ideas-about-the-us-attack-in-yemen.html#c6a00d8341c640e53ef01b8d25bf5fa970c

    I suspect that that is the likely tactic to set of the American colour revolution. It will be so very easy to implement.

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    Since his arrest last summer on computer-related child porn charges, former city employee Grant Shea has had a pretty easy time of things.

    Scheduled to go to trial next week to face those charges, Shea, 29, has been hanging out at the South Philly home he owns, released on his own recognizance. He has, for some ungodly reason, been allowed to have a computer connected to the internet, albeit one monitored by the government. And he was permitted to leave the city on two occasions to spend holidays with family. Not bad for a guy whose computers allegedly contained pornographic images of children under the age of 12.

    Well, things just got a little more complicated for Shea. On Monday, federal authorities arrested him again.

    Over the last few months, investigators have been following up on leads regarding various online accounts and conversations that prosecutors say involved child pornography.

    http://www.phillymag.com/news/2017/01/31/grant-shea-arrested-child-porn/

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    So, when I read of political operatives, for that is what they are, seeking to organize the federal civil service against the present administration of the United States it gives me pause. If they should succeed to some degree, the result would be paralysis for the government. If you think that is a good thing you should consider that the damage to the functioning of all parts of the Executive Branch would be deep and long lasting.
    A small example of the chaos that would ensue from a failure of function was provided by the ineptitude of the Trump Administration in not staffing and coordinating the “immigration” EO across the interagency last week
    The federal civil service was created because of the murder of a president. We live in parlous times. People should not play with fire lest they be burnt. pl

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/02/httpwwwpost-gazettecomnewspolitics-nation20170201plans-to-defy-trump-among-federal-workersstories201702010158.html

    Valissa said…
    On a related note…

    Protesters Torch Free Speech At Berkeley In Latest Example of Mob Rule On America’s College Campuses https://jonathanturley.org/2017/02/02/protesters-torch-free-speech-at-berkeley-in-latest-example-of-mob-rule-on-americas-college-campuses/
    Berkeley has previously been a battleground over effective speech codes and an example of the crackdown on free speech on college campuses as administrators punish any speech deemed insensitive or the still ill-defined category of “microaggressions.” One of the greatest concerns is the double standard showed to different speakers based on their content. The University of California at Berkeley is the most recent example of this controversy. In columns for the Daily Californian titled “Speaking Out”, “Fucking White Boys,” and “Choosing Myself Over White People”, Maggie Lam mocked and ridiculed white people. A column using such language mocking people of color would instantly trigger demands for expulsion.

    Protesters not only succeeded in blocking others from hearing from this speaker but they then proceeded to riot and destroy property outside of campus. This is the result of years of academics declaring some speech as unworthy of protection and enabling students who believe that no one should be allowed to express views that they feel is discriminatory or demeaning or hateful.

    Yiannopoulos is a gay conservative who is a popular speaker with his “Dangerous Faggot” talks. Hours before his event, protesters began throwing fireworks and destroying property to stop him from speaking. People who came to see him were reportedly attacked — an ironic twist for protesters who said that they wanted to fight hate speech. Protesters chanted “Milo has got to go” in an effort to prevent people from hearing his views.

    Berkeley can yield to the mob and surrender free speech to a violent mob. Alternatively, it can reschedule the event and expel any students who engage in violence on campus. The choice is between being a place of learning and being a place of indoctrination. This is one of the truly great universities in the world and once the center of the fight for free speech in the 60s. At one time it was the students who stood bravely for free speech. Now it must be the faculty. I know little about this speaker and I have never read his work. I do not have to. There are those who want to hear from him. A college is a place where different voices should be heard. These protesters are the face of true intolerance.
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    Instead of trying to “make the world a better place” a surprising number of liberals are turning into angry hatemongers. Acting like toddlers undergoing a group temper tantrum does not translate into effective political opposition. Instead it shows weakness and impotence.

    Reply 02 February 2017 at 04:00 PM

    steve said in reply to Valissa…
    College kids. Here is what the grown ups on the left say.
    http://www.dailycal.org/2017/01/17/free-speech-movement-veterans-historians-comment-milo-yiannopoulos-free-speech-controversy/

    Steve

    Reply 02 February 2017 at 05:31 PM

    Valissa said in reply to steve…
    Perfect example of why I left the left (and became a non-partisan). A fascinating blend of faux-tolerance and character assassination, deeply embedded in righteous indignation. Not even a passing mention of the actual policy disagreements involved… whether it’s limiting immigration or limiting free speech.

    The gist of the statement… Milo is very bad and he makes us very upset because we disagree with him so we have decided he is a bigot and a hater. People who live in glass houses, etc etc.

    I have only heard of him recently, but it appears his shtick is to play the bad boy who upsets people. Clearly he is effective at that. And effective at makings liberals look childish as they overreact to him.

    It appears that the left today is automatically conflating any discussion of immigration policy they don’t like as hate speech and bigotry. Do you believe that everyone who wants to limit immigration at a national level for economic or security reasons hates or even dislikes immigrants at a personal level? That’s a pretty nasty conflation. Australia has a very strict immigration policy… as do many other countries… does this make them all haters and bigots?

    Reply 02 February 2017 at 08:04 PM

    ToivoS said in reply to steve…
    That Daily Cal article specifically supports the right of the Campus Republicans to invite Milo to speak at Berkeley. The comments below the article were overwhelming in support.

    In addition, the protesters that were involved in the violence were mostly anarchist from off campus though a couple were identified as students. In short the overwhelming majority of the administration, students and faculty remained faithful to principles of free speech. It takes only a few dozen idiots to turn peaceful protest into a violent riot. I am an alumnus from Berkeley and remain in contact with that community. I fully expected them to act in a principled and honorable way and they did. In this unfortunate situation they were the victims of agent provocateurs.

    Reply 03 February 2017 at 05:18 AM

    Jack said in reply to Valissa…
    Valissa

    “Instead it shows weakness and impotence.”

    Precisely.

    The liberals want a PC world and Trump is not. That’s their primary beef. Now they’re acting out, incited by the hysterical media. Peggy Noonan’s column that you linked to earlier is very insightful. As she notes Trump is “norm breaking”. That’s the fundamental problem the Borgists have. Their groupthink world is being shattered and they can’t come to terms with how such a person could defeat their perfect Borg Queen.

    The Democrats should do some serious soul searching to understand why they rigged their primary. Sanders may very well have won the election. They should be getting behind someone like Tulsi Gabbard who is working across the aisle to introduce important legislation like the next Glass Steagall and Stop Arming Terrorists Act. Instead they back Borgists and trash Tulsi. Apparently they can’t let go of their Borg utopia.

    Reply 02 February 2017 at 05:52 PM

    Valissa said in reply to Jack…
    Jack, when I try to tell my liberal friends about this amazing Democratic congresswoman from Hawaii they show no interest in knowing much about her. Only when she protested the pipeline did anyone acknowledge her at all. My Dem friends are clueless about the deep systemic problems that their party and their current ideology has… all they can do is go primal scream about Trump… it’s quite incredible.

    Blowback is a bitch.

    Berkeley Blowback: Milo Book Sales Soar 12,740% Overnight http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-02/berkeley-blowback-milo-book-sales-soar-12740-overnight
    Following the violent anti-free-speech protests in Berkeley, California last night – sparked by cal’s special snowflakes hurt feelings at the potential words that would come out of Milo Yiannopoulos’ mouth during a sold-out event – it appears America’s curiousity has been piqued.

    Sales of Milo’s book have increased 12,740% overnight sending it rocketing from 642nd to 5th ranked best-seller on Amazon. Pretty impressive considering the book is not even released until March 14th 2017.

    … So despite all the best efforts of the liberal intelligentsia to shut down his ‘free-speech’ last night – hurting the feelings of 600 conservatives who were looking forward to the event – we suspect a lot more than 600 Americans are now about to get a crash course in how Milo thinks.
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  23. ulvfugl says:

    There’s something going on. I don’t know what it is. I don’t trust Seaman.

    He put himself forward as a leading attacker on the pizzagate/Alefantis thing, and has made many videos on the topic since then. But it’s odd that he himself has never put together any original research on the matter, he just takes bits that others have dug up and creams off the credit for himself, and then advertises gold money and asks for donations. So that’s not saying he’s necessarily bad, but maybe he’s shallow and self-serving.

    He’s trying to claim that he himself uncovered that there is some major amazing discovery in the Antarctic, that is going to be used as a distraction, and that because he’s revealed that, and linked it to the Illuminati, his 55 thousand twitter followers got deleted. Whatever.

    Seems to me, it’s HIM who is dramatising utter bullshit.

    Because why has he not mentioned that the two photos that he put up, supposedly showing some human ruins in Antarctica, were a HOAX, that was done YEARS AGO (2012 if I remember rightly, can’t be bothered to dig it up again, I put the link in the previous essay comments) and the one of the ruins is space archaeology from EGYPT, in the desert, and the individual quotes and photos of ‘experts’ were also using fake names.

    So he posted that rubbish and claimed it was why John Kerry had gone down there.

    Now, I do not know, possibly there is some weird thingee going on, as a distraction, maybe they did find something ELSE down at the Antarctic. But whatever is going on, I find Seaman less credible than before. He’s also a pothead, so perhaps his brain gets him into junk thinking sometimes, which pot can do.

    Anyway, perhaps things will become clearer as time goes by.

    It’s definitely clear that there is now a huge movement against Trump, and so all kinds of dirty tricks and disinfo going around, because the stakes are very high, about as high as they could possibly get. Trump is in the most powerful position on the planet, and many of the most powerful people do not want him there, and try to take him down, any way that they can.

    I think it will become increasingly difficult to know whom to trust and what information is correct. Example below

    I should add, I’m not against pot, it’s good in all sorts of ways, I’m glad David Seaman pushes for full legalisation, etc, but it can loosen up you head, which is great for creative thinking and artistic stuff, but can also get you into nonsense, and we need to be very clear and hard headed about some of this, because it is so important.

    Seems to me that tempers and tensions are running very high, it only needs a spark to set off a big fire that gets out of control. The spark can be a completely untrue fake story, that people believe is fact, that gets folk even more riled and agitated so that they go out and start taking revenge.

    England had it’s Civil War centuries ago. The Cavaliers were lax and easy going in the morality, liked expensive fancy clothes, they were corrupt and into getting wealthier at the people’s expense, and so on. They resembled the liberal, left, progressive, Democrat side, in some ways.

    The Roundheads or Puritans were serious, austere, fanatical believers, who wanted to clean the country up. There was no way to reconcile or resolve the differences, other than on the battlefields, and I think around a third of the population died.

    This could be the route that the USA is heading. Manipulating the mobs is down to a fine art nowadays. Google and the NSA and the mega wealthy can watch the effect that a news item has upon the internet in real time, and they can gauge their responses.

  24. ulvfugl says:

    New York Police Department detectives and federal prosecutors working an underage sexting case against Anthony Weiner now confirm that the former Congressman allegedly swapped exclusive sexual texts and images with a high school girl who was 14 years old at the time he engaged the online relationship.

    Likewise alarming, law enforcement sources divulged to True Pundit that Weiner was aware of the girl’s age but continued the online relationship regardless.

    Weiner, who employed the alias of “T-Dog” to correspond with the youth, texted her throughout 2016 after meeting her on Twitter. The correspondences included exchanging explicit pictures and sexual texts to celebrate the girl’s 15th birthday.

    On Tuesday, the Wall Street Journal cited federal sources who said Weiner could face a mandatory 15-year prison sentence for alleged breaches of assorted child pornography statutes.

    As first reported three months ago by True Pundit, Weiner and other Hillary Clinton associates could be facing possible federal charges of child exploitation, sex crimes with minors and possible other felony charges including child pornography. These details were originally documented in an exclusive Nov. 2, 2016 story published by True Pundit which in part specifies:

    http://truepundit.com/nypd-feds-unveil-details-of-anthony-weiners-illegal-texts-with-14-yr-old-girl/

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    Berkeley: Pole-Wielding Thugs Hunt & Terrorize Trump Supporters, KO Man in Street
    http://truepundit.com/video-peoples-republic-of-uc-berkeley-pole-wielding-thugs-hunt-terrorize-trump-supporters-ko-man-in-street/

  26. ulvfugl says:

    I see Trump as being a bit like Napoleon, who came to power in France following the French Revolution. Other nations saw him as a threat, and ganged up against him. Despite his outstanding brilliance, he was defeated, mostly by his one big mistake of marching to Moscow. Trump is a threat to a great many very powerful vested interests who will do all that they can to defeat and remove him. We’ve seen all the coordinated nonsense, the Stein recounts, the ‘fake news’, the claims he’s a Russian agent, blahblah, before he was inaugurated and it is not stopping.

    Seems to me, there’s a choice for the approximately half of the population who lost. Either you accept defeat, lick your wounds and settle down, like Romney supporters did when they lost. Or else you defy the Constitution and the legal structures and open up an insurrection, which means civil war.

    If that happens, the left, liberal, progressive, side will get precisely what they do not want, the exact opposite of what they claim to desire. Because martial law will be declared and anyone who openly contests the authority of the President and State will be arrested and interned, and you will have achieved the hard fascism that you claim to be against.

    I could be wrong, so much is going on in the shadows, but from what I can tell, although the division is very deep, the majority of the military, the police, and the covert agencies all support the Constitution and the President. So they will WIN.

    But who knows what the Fed might do, the bankers could crash the financial system, or create some massive false flag that brings war with some other country, as a diversion.

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    Croesus SomethingSomethingDarkSide Feb 3, 2017 6:17 PM
    Fuck MA:

    Like CA, it’s the source of a lot of shitbag laws, and shitbag politicians.

    Long guillotines!

    The Snowflakes will eventually bite-off more than they can chew; it doesn’t seem to dawn on them that the President’s support base is highly-pissed off, and generally a lot more dangerous than they are.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-03/boston-judge-unblocks-trump-travel-ban-asks-where-does-it-say-muslim-countries

  28. ulvfugl says:

    Why would Trump be fuming ? He understands how this works, same as he did all through his campaigning.

    The more ludicrous nonsense that the MSM (his enemy) keep putting out, the more they lose their power and credibility, because he can do a couple of tweets demonstrating that they are liars, and that’s where his power comes from.

    The MSM put out fake news hoping to whip up hysteria that’ll excite the so called ‘resistance’. But he knows this and so do his supporters. It’s all crap that rebounds onto Trump’s opponents. They have nothing that has any substance.

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    Hmph. My impression is that he himself created the bubble out of nothing and now congratulates himself for having burst it.

    What actually real evidence was there, for his imaginary bubble ? A hoax story on the internet from years ago is not very convincing.

    Here, I found the link.

    http://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/378841-hoax-alert-nasa-images-did-not-reveal-ancient-human-settlement-under-23-km-of-ice.html

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    This is the same sort of garbage that was used, still is, against Vladimir Putin, and I suspect it comes from the same cowardly source that hides in the shadows.

  36. ulvfugl says:

    Moreover, the British report was not the first such case reported. In fact, it followed on the heels of a report from Portugal. On November 27, 2002, the press reported a scandal of pedophile ring run from a state orphanage. The Guardian reported that the scandal threatened to engulf diplomats, media personalities and senior politicians. Photographs of senior government officials with young boysfrom Lisbon’s Casa Pia orphanage were among the evidence. More shocking however, were the revelations that systematic sexual abuse of children at the home had allegedly been going on for more than 20 years and had been known to police and other authorities for most of that time.

    On January 14, 2002, Insight Magazine reported the charges leveled by Ben Johnson against his employer Dyncorp, a major defense contractor. Johnson charged that officials and employees of Dyncorp were engaging in perverse, illegal and inhumane behavior and were purchasing illegal weapons, women, forged passports and participating in other immoral acts. Johnson had witnessed his supervisors and fellow employees buying 12- to 15-year-olds as sex slaves.

    While prostitution is the world’s oldest profession, the global sex trade is big business. The impact of illegal immigrant traffic in Canada is estimated at between $120 million to $400 million per year accounting for approximately 8,000 to 16,000 people arriving in Canada per year illegally. The estimate is from Organized Crime Impact Study, prepared for the Solicitor General of Canada. The majority of the illegal immigrants are forced into prostitution and come from Vietnam and China. Once smuggled into Canada, the young girls are sold into bondage throughout a North America network. Moreover, Canada is not alone. Young Russians and Ukrainian women that wish to immigrate to Israel are often smuggled into the country destitute and at the mercy of their pimp.

    More disgusting is the role the United States government plays in facilitating this global sex trade. Instead of banning the previously mentioned Dyncorp from further defense contracts, the regime of George W Bush rewards it in granting major contracts for the Iraqi war. Even more shameful is the wink and nod the state department grants the Saudis. The Arabian Peninsula has long been known to be purchasers of slaves. Mostly the slaves came from India or Africa however, with the advent of the oil wealth the Saudis have became more selective and are known as high-end buyers. The Saudi Arabian Government continues to refuse to sign the United Nation’s treaty on slavery and extradition treaties.

    https://conspiracydailyupdate.com/2016/07/11/the-truth-about-george-h-w-bush-the-cia-and-mkultra-mind-control/

  37. ulvfugl says:

    An Internet pedophile ring with up to 70,000 members — thought to be the world’s largest —has been uncovered by police, a security official said Wednesday.

    The European police agency Europol said in a statement that “Operation Rescue” had identified 670 suspects and that 230 abused children in 30 countries had been taken to safety. More children are expected to be found, Europol said.

    It said that so far 184 people had been arrested and investigations in some countries were continuing. Most of those detained are suspected of direct involvement in sexually abusing children.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42108748/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/massive-online-pedophile-ring-busted-cops/

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    Authored by Paul Craig Roberts,

    The Saker is a level-headed person. I take it seriously when he spells out the threat to Trump’s presidency presented by the paradoxical alliance of the ruling oligarchs with what purports to be the “liberal/progressive/left.”

    It is amazing that the “liberal/progressive/left” are aligned with war and not with peace and are aligned with the OnePercent against the working class, whom they despise as “Trump deplorables.”

    The Saker believes that Trump is under serious threat of being overthrown and that he must strike first or go down.

    As my readers are highly intelligent, I am not surprised that some of them have arrived at the same conclusion as The Saker. Here is what one had to say:

    I am totally astounded by the madness – even at formerly reasonable left – liberal websites. Alternet is one big hysteria factory. Although Counterpunch has had good articles by Mike Whitney, you (I presume, since I read your articles on your website), Diana Johnstone and a few others, I can’t believe how they’ve jumped in, too. I’ve been reading CP since the beginning of the newsletter in the 90s. Until this year, they were (after yours) my go-to website when I turned the computer on. I can’t believe they have a new article titled “Beyond Resistance – Defeating Trump’s Burgeoning Dictatorship”. And another: “Democracy in Exile and the Curse of Totalitarianism”. And another: “Muslim Bans, White Supremacy and Fascism in Our Time”. Patrick Cockburn has an article titled: “Trump’s Muslim Ban Will Only Spark More Terrorist Attacks”. Even the World Socialist Website has gone bananas.

    Almost all of the German left-mainstream sites have gone insane. On the one hand, it seems like almost every protest group, in the end, has a source of money from Soros. On the other, it seems like 40% of the population must have been put through an MK-Ultra program. How could such mass hysteria otherwise be produced?

    This is the level of argument with which protesters oppose Trump’s presidency:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-03/exposing-lefts-war-against-ordinary-americans

    Which is why I have changed sides !

    A couple of years back, I would have been generally supportive of left wing and anarchist voices who were fighting against the tyrannical powers, you know, all the Big Everything corporations that are looting the planet, controlling the media, corrupting politics, etc, etc, blah blah.

    But I DO NOT WANT a One World Gvt owned and run by psychopathic mega rich jewish mafia bankers who intend to have 100% total control of everything, who view the rest of the humans as tissue, meat, cattle, to be manipulated, abused, and exploited for profit. Those people are MY ENEMY.

    But now, the people whom I used to believe were fighting for some vision of a better world, you know, justice and fairness, conservation, etc, have all gone insane and are fighting on the side of my enemy. The anarchists, Kevin Carson, David Graeber, etc, who were loud voices in the Occupy movement, supposed to be against the 0.1% oligarchs and Wall St, etc, are now on the same side as that very 0.1% They think they are the good guys fighting against the ‘evil conservatives’ and Trump.

    It seems that they are too stupid and stuck in dogma to comprehend what the fight is really about. Maybe it is a class thing. They think of themselves as intellectually superior to the Deplorables, basically snobbery. But it is the Deplorables who are the side of freedom of speech, non violence, and the values of traditional soceity that give humans dignity and respect.

    There does not seem to be anyone on the left whom I can listen to and respect any more. They are in favour of more progress towards what ? Transhumanism, bestiality, paedophilia, sex slavery, human trafficking, organ harvesting, more wars and cruel, sordid oppression, taking away the powers of sovereign governments so people cannot organise their own laws and affairs in their own countries, etc, etc.

    You know, so called radical anarchists fighting FOR the mainstream corporate media and the CIA and the Rockefeller, Rothschild, Soros, bankster axis is highly absurd, totally ridiculous.

  44. ulvfugl says:

    This simple legal foresight means that the Soros-Rothschild camp can only rely on their mainstream media to ruin his term.

    But, considering the continued downfall of the mainstream media’s integrity, this action should send another bout of panic for the established system.

    There are other countries that are rising up against the system which Soros built along with other likeminded cohorts.

    “Hungary has had enough. The nation’s government has declared a battle against organizations funded by George Soros, calling for transparency within foreign-backed NGOs operating in the country. The move has already been condemned by Brussels, but Budapest has long refused to tow the EU line – on refugees, ties with Russia, and other issues. Can Hungary continue to put its own interests above those proclaimed to be common European interests? We ask Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjártó.” – SophieCo

    https://geopolitics.co/2017/01/31/trump-outmaneuvers-soros-with-early-fec-form-2-filing/

  45. ulvfugl says:

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    Kirk2NCC1701 Feb 3, 2017 10:20 PM
    It’s not “the Left’s war”.

    It’s the Global Banksters and Oligarchs, who are waging war, using all kinds of tools, parties and proxies — that includes the Left and Jihadists.

    They want to abolish nation states, and usher in a NWO: NEO-FEUDALISM.

    “Oligarchs Without Borders”

    I think that is correct. Just as the CIA/Mossad/MI6 control ISIS and Al Qaeda, at a distance, from the top, and use them as proxies, so the American Oligarchs use the so called liberals, lefties, progressives, as proxies. Neither the jihadis who fight and die in MENA, nor the students and Blac Bloc rabble in the USA, are smart enough to grasp that they are being used, and fighting against their own interests.

    To me, it is looking increasingly like some sort of imminent civil war every day, maybe it cannot be avoided. Everybody loses, except the banksters who set it up.

    budd_dwyers_gun flaminratzazz Feb 4, 2017 12:38 AM
    Bolshevik Revolution II

    “‘The question now in the readers’ minds must be, were these bankers also secret Bolsheviks? No, of course not. The financiers were without ideology. It would be a gross misinterpretation to assume that assistance for the Bolshevists was ideologically motivated, in any narrow sense. The financiers were power-motivated and therefore assisted any political vehicle that would give them an entree to power: Trotsky, Lenin, the tsar, Kolchak, Denikin — all received aid, more or less. All, that is, but those who wanted a truly free individualist society.” – Antony C. Sutton,WALL STREET AND THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION

    Duc888 Feb 3, 2017 10:31 PM

    Here’s the crazy shit. Think about this. I’m not seeing any “hate” from TheDonald. He’s (so far) basically doing 90% of what he campaigned on and doing it faster than any other 5 Presidents put together have acted.

    So lets say “deep State” and the Leftist Commy / So-called “progressives”, Libtards actually (somehow) get back into power. Can you imaging what a fucking hell hole USA will be to live in?

    It’s pretty obvious these people have fucking zero common sense, zero critical thinking skills and zero ability to look in the mirror and take a look at what THEY are saying as well as acting out.

    Scary thought…. really.

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    flaminratzazz Duc888 Feb 3, 2017 10:37 PM
    it will look just like detroit but it will be nation wide

    but then, all our inner cities are looking like that now..

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    Archive_file flaminratzazz Feb 3, 2017 10:47 PM
    I’m in San Francisco. Piles of human excrement in every sidewalk cranny. Just saw one in front of Macy’s.

    Fucking tents everywhere.

    Go to any “nice” neighbirhood (including Diane Feinstein’), and you will be asailed by 50 homeless popping out of hedges and bushes rattling a tin cup.

    I.Shit.You.Not.

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    flaminratzazz Archive_file Feb 3, 2017 10:50 PM
    time to plan your escape..i am

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    Chris Dakota flaminratzazz Feb 4, 2017 12:20 AM
    Where are you going?

    I try places then get cold feet when I see how cold, close to Mexico border, bugs, blacks, liberals

    flaminratzazz’s picture
    flaminratzazz Chris Dakota Feb 4, 2017 12:39 AM
    I am looking at always being a tourist with visitor visas..do the research and realize you don’t want to become a citizen until you know for sure you can live there. But right now I am considering Panama, Ecuador, Paraguay, Chile etc,

    No place is perfect, each has it’s pros and cons..The Orient is not off limits either.

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    Chris Dakota Archive_file Feb 4, 2017 12:20 AM
    I am there during the daytime, disgusts me to.

    I no longer speak to anyone, they are ALL one of them.

    I moved out to the east bay, much, much better.

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    Archive_file Duc888 Feb 3, 2017 10:43 PM
    Hits already a “hell hole.”

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    LMAOLORI Duc888 Feb 3, 2017 10:45 PM

    “Libtards say they are all for peace, harmony, and inclusiveness

    thats what they say

    but Liberals are really VIOLENT, BIGOTED ASSHOLES”

    Tweeted by Odin Mason and I couldn’t agree more

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    Bubba Rum Das Duc888 Feb 3, 2017 11:07 PM
    “So lets say “deep State” and the Leftist Commy / So-called “progressives”, Libtards actually (somehow) get back into power.”

    If that were/ is to happen again;
    There WILL be hell to pay for those MOTHER FUCKERS!

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    Chris Dakota Bubba Rum Das Feb 4, 2017 12:14 AM
    They won’t!

    They are finished.

    Actually the more they riot the worse it is for them in the future.

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    Chris Dakota Duc888 Feb 4, 2017 12:22 AM
    They don’t run anything. They take orders from Soros NGO’s.

    They are in a neat little box with Tranny rights and whatever else they push this year.

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    besnook Feb 3, 2017 10:31 PM
    foreign policy magazine is practically predicting armageddon under trump.

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    Handful of Dust besnook Feb 3, 2017 10:48 PM
    That FP magazine is a front for the left wing fascist views. I have heard their editor on npr and he is almost irrational in his views of praising the muslim killer (Barrack bin Bama) and ceaselessly bashing Trump with no factual basis on th eother hand.

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    2_legs_bahhhhhd besnook Feb 3, 2017 11:39 PM
    The deep state is manufacturing our consent to goose step all over us. The fucking sheep are literally building thier own prison.

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    Fr33m3n Feb 3, 2017 10:32 PM
    I have a well travelled friend from Romania. He is adamant that the population of Eastern Europe who were under the boot heel of the Ottoman Empire barely 100 years ago remember all too well a government based on islamic law. Between that and the work of Soviets and apathy of the west to confront their “ally” on land grabs and totalitarian bloodthirsty rule, the majority are not going to be ruled by a foreign power again. Be it Berlin, Brussels, Moscow, or Mecca. And nobody knows the truth about soros than Hungary. More of the planet supports nations leaders acting with priority to their constituents over globalism, regardless what comedy central says.

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    TeethVillage88s Feb 3, 2017 10:36 PM
    Amazing. The victims of Illegal Immigrants and our Warriors overseas have little voice in the liberal-open free press in the USA.

    Probably Paul Craig Roberts has pointed this out often.

    Why do US Death Rolls have no place, their body-bags, their coffins, have not visuals in the MSM, home of freedom.

    Nor do the women and kids in Exotic lands that we kill with our bombs and weapons!

    What is the cost of war… start with rapes, murders, and disease of the Refugees.

    Well Define the Enemy. Most important for Sun Zsu.

    – Central Banks
    – Elites/Wealthy/Money Trust
    – China/Chinese
    – Iran/Islamic Terrorists (from say 1970-2017)
    – Lawyers, Bankers, FIREs, Lobbyist, Politicians, MSM, University System, Neo-Science/Quasi-Science, Corporate Drug Industry/Big Pharma
    – Globalists, Big Oil & Gas, Big Engineering, Big MIC, Big Telecom, Big MSM, Big Banks, Big Pharma, Big Chemical, …

    Hey! Divided We Fall! Who is the Enemy? You think Democrats or Republicans are not “One Party, the Lobbyist Party”?

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    Rebel yell TeethVillage88s Feb 3, 2017 11:00 PM
    Iran has done nothing hostile to America since Rouhani was elected. Iran is not an enemy. Are you a sadist or a masochist? It’s one or the other! They have been fighting our enemies, ISIS. You are completely ignorant of the facts!

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    TeethVillage88s Rebel yell Feb 3, 2017 11:53 PM
    Ah, I see where I made my mistake with my list.

    That is the problem with wondering aloud, with making lists, with journaling.

    Sorry.

    I keep an open mind. I’m not so much like other bloggers. I test ideas I suppose.

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    Grimaldus Rebel yell Feb 4, 2017 12:16 AM
    Chanting “Death to America” 24/7/365 is not hostile….. riiiight.

    I dont walk down the street chanting death to Iran. Nobody does that.

    So they are some seriously sick fucks over there in Iran. Not your friend.

    Oh but wait, my bad, progressive criminals here in the USA are chanting “Death to Trump”

    See the connection? Progressive tyrants and Islamic tyrants are ——-fellow travelers in criminality.

    Still I get what you are sayin and I agree, we should be doing business with the Iranians instead of threatening war.

    Grimaldus

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    Handful of Dust Feb 3, 2017 10:46 PM
    These are paid rioters. The others are kids. Most kids don’t really understand the complexity of th eissues and many are too young to even remember the lies of Bush that he used to pull USA into the war in the first place.

    No excuse. They should know Obama has been soaking the soil of Libtya and the middle east with Muslim blood for 8 years.

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    Duc888 Handful of Dust Feb 3, 2017 10:59 PM

    ” Most kids don’t really understand the complexity of th eissues and many are too young to even remember the lies of Bush that he used to pull USA into the war in the first place.”

    The stunning thing to me is these clowns who are under 35. Not ALL of them… but a LOT of them are soooooooooooooo fucking misinformed. They simply do not even KNOW what Trump means about “make America Great again” . Let me tell you what I think. This is just 100% of my opinion. I am 53. Looking back at growing up in the 70’s and early 80’s, to ME, it seems like generally speaking it was a much more prosperous time for young adults. I’m not candy coating shit, there were problems just as in any decade you pick, but it sure seems to me that generally speaking shit was not as totally FUBAR as it is now. We had a LOT of opportunities.

    So my point is that people under 30 or 35 have no fucking frame of reference to JUDGE how shit was back then, I remember sitting in a local watering hole last year overhearing two young ladies, perhaps in their late twenties go on and on and on about how terrible it was in the 1980’s, the street violence, the riots, the desperation of everyone… I had to interject. I looked at them and asked them if that is what their parents told them… they said “no” they saw it on a few different TV shows. I was like… ORLY? Well I lived through the 1970’s and 1980’s and as a young adult then, I’d take those times 100000000000 ANY DAY over growing up now. They looked at me like I was crazier than a shit house rat…. kept babbling about this TV show…. and that TV show…. I laughed at them and told them I didn’t need a fucking TV to tell me how my childhood / young adulthood was…

    TV= some serious “programming” going on there…total entrainment. Creepy.

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    scintillator9 Duc888 Feb 3, 2017 11:13 PM
    Now one knows why Television programs are called exactly that.

    Also, is it not infuriating when there is an actual, living, breathing eye witness TO history RIGHT IN FRONT of these people, and they refuse to believe anything vs. what they were shown on Tee Vee?

    I would be willing to bet that they spend little time with their relatives, and if they do, their face is buried in an iwhatever device.

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    Atomizer Feb 3, 2017 10:49 PM
    The Naked Communist discussion stream, w/Artistic Layman – YouTube

    Long, worth listening to

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    TGF Texas Feb 3, 2017 11:05 PM
    I have heard help is on the way. Not from any of you, obviously. Most of you are prefer to to belly ache as wave after wave of fake news, fake protests, and fake outrage washes over the shores of this once great county. I mean bitching about treason, is much easier than actually doing something about it.

    Stay Frosty on that keyboard, potbelly patriots.

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    Duc888 TGF Texas Feb 3, 2017 11:07 PM

    The players are already in place. Everyones waiting for Dunford to pull the pin.

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    Atomizer TGF Texas Feb 3, 2017 11:42 PM
    Judging by your profile, you crossed the border six weeks ago.

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    ThanksChump TGF Texas Feb 4, 2017 12:37 AM
    … he typed angrily, loudly smacking greasy lips in annoyance, causing several dried mustard stalagmites to quiver atop his round stomach…

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    quesnay TGF Texas Feb 4, 2017 12:39 AM
    And what are you doing oh great and powerful TGF Texas? Ya, that’s what I thought. You’re all projection. The 300 lb unemployed basement dweller calling ‘everyone else’ potbelly patriots.

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    captain-nemo Feb 3, 2017 11:09 PM
    There is a thin line between politics and religion, and in some cases politics even becomes religion. That’s what happened to globalism (and also islam).

    If you wonder why the liberals acts like they are more or less insane and can’t be reasoned with, it’s because their movement have turned religious.

    If you wonder why the liberals act like they are morally superior to others and acts like they are in their full rights to slam other peoples moral and views (even by force), it’s because they have turned into religious fanatics, like their brothers in arms, the muslems.

    The liberals think they are better than us, that they have a moral right to attack and harass us and look upon us as infidels that must be silenced and prosecuted by any means possible.

    You better remember that if you want to discuss or confront a liberal.

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    2_legs_bahhhhhd captain-nemo Feb 3, 2017 11:36 PM
    All true….i enjoy the company of liberals, whenever I’m feeling sane, they always bring me back to reality.

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    ThanksChump captain-nemo Feb 4, 2017 12:43 AM
    Exactly like pre-WW2 Germans, leftists worship the state.

    They feel their god has been taken from them. Their behavior reflects that.

    They can’t be fixed or cured, ya know. You know where this leads if Trump doesn’t stop them, and that’s not really his job…

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-03/exposing-lefts-war-against-ordinary-americans?page=2

  46. ulvfugl says:

    President Trump is unlikely to be able to fix that essential problem, unless he can pilot the whole political-economy into a glide-path leading toward neo-medievalism — what I call the World Made By Hand. Trump’s call for restoring the factory economy of 1962 is a low-percentage prospect. Instead, he’ll be saddled with the collateral damage caused by the dishonest effort of his recent predecessors to borrow from the future to pay for the way we live now — that is, racking up debt. This mighty debt-load, never before seen in history, and the accounting fraud that enables it, has helped produce all kinds of distortions, perversities, and fragilities in our money system (finance and banking) which can easily slip into collapse if a crucial prop fails here or there, and that is exactly what I think will happen under Trump. It will not be his fault, but he’ll get blamed for it. And when it happens, he won’t be able to give his attention to anything but that.

    In the meantime, society shows all the symptoms of this literal economic disease in the political and cultural fissures of the day. The political Right failed in its role as prudent conservator of values, resources, and practical custom; the political Left has taken refuge in sentimental fantasy, using the semantic ploys of the graduate school seminars to pretend that reality is whatever they wish it to be. Uncomfortable with the age-old tensions of sexuality? Then pretend that you can opt out of the dynamics of biology by declaring yourself “non-binary,” a term with a pleasing science-y flavor. Tensions gone? Not really. You’ve only made them worse as, for instance, expressed in “non-binary” suicide rates. The perversities of transsexual triumphalism are related directly to the falsehoods of Federal Reserve trans-monetarist triumphalism, and all parties are subject to the matrix of racketeering that has taken the place of plain dealing in goods, money, and ideas in this society — especially ideas grounded in reality.

    Societies may not exactly be organisms with intentions, but they move in a particular direction because they are emergent phenomena. That is, they are self-organizing according to the circumstances and forces they are subject to at a certain time and place in history. Decadence is specifically the decay of social and cultural boundaries, a process that is manifestly accelerating now. Both sides of the political spectrum are acting out this dynamic, with the vacuum in the middle sucking vitality out of each side. The Left has become a kind of pagan religion of sacred victims and victimhood, collecting sacred injuries and martyrs. Its dark secret, though, is that these sacred things are only straw-dogs and wicker-men. The real animating motive for the Left these days is simply the pleasure of coercion, of exercising the power to punish their adversaries and watch them suffer.

    The Trump Right also enjoys the writhings and sufferings of its adversaries, squashed bug style, as it goes forth in the quixotic battle to bring back 1962 at all costs. Both the Left and the right show not a little sadism in their methods. In the background of these histrionics, the great groaning machine of Modernity lurches toward collapse — not the end-of-the-world as many foolishly imagine, but the end of a phase of history when things that used to work, don’t. At a certain point, we’ll have to try other ways of being with each other on this planet, and then for a while things will come together again.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-03/center-didnt-hold

  47. ulvfugl says:

    Since Donald Trump became President of the United States, we have been witnessing some interesting developments in Syria. We have only fragmentary and seemingly unconnected information at this time, but, as one puts the pieces of the puzzle together, it appears likely that some kind of deeper level of coordination between the US and Russia exists. While it cannot be said with certainty, Trump and Putin have probably agreed to cooperate in the fight against Daesh in Syria without making it publicly known. These represent only intentions, especially after the misunderstanding in recent days about joint strikes between Moscow and Washington against Daesh in Syria.

    The following list is intended to facilitate an understanding of a tentative hypothesis that posits secret coordination between the US and Russia.

    Let us start with some points concerning recent months.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-03/how-russia-united-states-are-cooperating-syria

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    Story wars in the postmodern soup

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    The preposterous David Graeber is as bad as CNN, trying to grab some moral highground for the violent rabble he is so fond of.

    Yeah, of course, the Blac Bloc are really nice peaceful friendly folks who never cause violence and destruction. Except when subjected to extreme provocation. Blah blah. Poor persecuted oppressed anarchists. It is so unfair for people to complain about them, when all they are trying to do is to punch nazis.

    Except there they are, in multiple videos, attacking and beating people, lighting fires, smashing the place up.

    Years ago, the anarchists would claim that they were fighting for the rights of the proletariat, the ordinary working class folk, against the oppressive capitalist elite. But times have changed. The ordinary working people are sick to death of this shit and the stupidity of it all.

    Graeber, Carson, Penny Red, and the rest make it very clear in their ramblings that they actually hate and despise the ordinary working people, because they consider themselves to be superior. They think they are entitled to represent those people, but when those people don’t agree, they scorn and ridicule them. They like to talk about ‘love’ and high ideals but it is all hypocritical bullshit.

    See how disingenuous, dishonest, he is.

    As I understand it, the shooter was defending himself from his attackers. The police released him with no charge, because he was within his rights.

    The attackers were Graeber’s lot, using violence against a Trump supporte who defended himself.

    Of course, from Graeber et al’s perspective, anyone who supports Trump is automatically a fascist, nazi, racist, blah blah, so they think they are entitled to break the law and use violence. But as far as I can tell, most of the violence is coming from his side, not from the right, and all of the censorship of free speech is coming from his side.

    The larger point is, what is the aim ? Trump is doing everything that he said he would do, putting into effect the reforms he spoke of, which is why he won the election. Whether you like it or not, that is democracy in action. If you refuse to accept the political process and the result, the only other choice is for violence.

    Of course, sitting in the LSE as a professor, agitating for revolution, is a safer option than being in the American cities when all hell breaks loose. Does anybody think that a civil war will produce the desired anarchist utopia ? Of course it will not. It’ll mean massive casualties and millions of lives wrecked.

    The other option is to offer the people something positive and worthwhile, so that you win votes. The left, liberals, progressives, anarchists, have got nothing interesting or attractive to offer. Just decadence and depravity, and the same stupid crap we’ve had for years.

    In the UK I have hated the Tories all my life, I dislike UKIP, I have total contempt for the LibDems, and I used to be sympathetic towards Labour.

    But Labour have imploded into utter stupidity and irrelevance. Waste of everyone’s time.

    Being in Wales, I can vote for Plaid Cymru, the Welsh Nationalists. if I ever bother to vote again. The last time I voted it was Green, but they are totally useless and irrelevant too. If I was in England I’d probably support Tommy Robinson now.

    https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra

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    Why didn’t the lunatics get so hysterical when Clinton and Obama did it ?

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    Propaganda from Judith Butler. (She’s the one who started the notion that denies biology and physiology and says that male and female are social constructs.)

    Post-Truth

    I am not sure we are in the middle of post-truth. Trump’s statements are not utterly arbitrary, but he is willing to change positions at will, bound only to the occasion, his impulse, and his efficacity. He is not living in a world of evidence. It does not matter whether or not he contradicts himself or whether it is obvious that he rejects those conclusions that diminish his power or popularity. Both his brazen and wounded narcissism and his refusal to submit to evidence and logic make him all the more popular. He lives above the law, and that is where many of his supporters also want to live.

    https://culanth.org/fieldsights/1032-reflections-on-trump

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    Hahaha, this is quite funny, but also sinister and tragic.

    Hitler’s propaganda guy, Joseph Goebbels (who learned from Ed Bernays) said somewhere that the key to the art is to accuse your opponents of doing what, in fact, you yourself just did, are doing or intending to do.

    So you kind of reverse or flip the narrative, into the opposite of what it really is.

    And someone, somewhere, in the USA, has just done that. Probably some Soros or CIA or Brock funded think tank is the origin. Presumably, because some bunch of paedophile elite are up against the wall, now, and scared that the game is over and they’ll be prosecuted, because the new Attorney General, Sessions, will bring on some action at last.

    So what I read is that they are saying that Donald Trump invented the ‘fake’ pizzagate/pedogate scandal, so that he could use it as a ploy to persecute his political opponents and the great names in Hollywood, whom he does not like. 🙂

    Which is really quite clever. Straight out of Goebbels’ manual on how to manipulate public opinion. But it is utterly untrue, it is Machiavellian deceit.

    CNN did the same thing, by stating that the anti Milo violent rioters who trashed stuff in Berkeley, were not REALLY the antifa Blac Bloc, they were some alt right imposters who wanted the liberal left progressives to be blamed. I mean, that is such an extreme distortion, that it isn’t clever, but it is the same tactic.

    The problem is, that as Goebbels also said, for propaganda to work, it has to be somewhere near to believable. A portion of the targetted public audience has to accept it as ‘truth’, otherwise it backfires. If the story appears to be so totally batshit crazy and contrived that nobody takes it seriously, it’s counter productive.

    What happened in Russia, the USSR, prior to the fall of the Berlin Wall, was that as the elite became increasingly desperate to hold onto power, the propaganda stuff in the State newspapers, Pravda, got more and more ridiculous. All the public knew that it was garbage and they read whatever it said as meaning that the opposite was the truth.

    As when the Ukrainian nuclear plant at Chernobyl exploded, they were told that nothing had happened and there was no problem. So, that confirmed for everyone, that obviously it HAD exploded and there WAS a problem.

    And that is what is happening now, in the USA, with the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, etc, putting out complete rubbish and lies, trying desperately to keep the public misinformed. Because the established elite, or a significant portion of them, are trying to fend off Trump’s ‘Drain The Swamp’.

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    Look what they just did to Ben Swann. All he did was a brief episode questioning why none of the MSM were even mentioning pizzagate. That was breaking the taboo, ‘wrongthink’, so he’s forced to vanish, now a ‘non person’.

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    Explanations for his apparent disappearance have differed, with some believing that he went dark in order to continue working on the PizzaGate story uninterrupted and others claiming that he was threatened to the point that he shut down his entire media operation.

    At the time of this writing the real reason is still unknown which has caused a massive amount of speculation on message boards like Reddit and Voat while leaving many with the sinking feeling that something isn’t right.

    Stay tuned as we will be covering this story as it unfolds. Until then, be sure to watch Swann’s segment on PizzaGate if you haven’t seen it already

    http://robinwestenra.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/ben-swann-goes-dark-on-public-media.html

  63. ulvfugl says:

    CNET, Feb 3, 2017: High radiation levels at Fukushima reactor is bad, bad news — Time to reconsider that trip to the east coast of Japan. A containment vessel at the destroyed Fukushima No. 1 power plant has reached off-the-chart radiation levels, reported the Japan Times… Experts believe that escaped melted fuel can account for the spiked reading.

    Watch NHKs’s broadcast here: #1 | #2

    http://robinwestenra.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/alert-collapse-imminent-at-fukushima.html

  64. ulvfugl says:

    Much of what is known about Opus Dei comes from ex-members such as John Roche, a professor at Oxford University in England, who broke his oath of secrecy after leaving the order. According to Roche, self-flagellation with whips and spiked chains is a normal part of the rigid spiritual discipline that Opus Dei imposes on its full-time members, including college age recruits of both genders.

    “Personal identity suffers a severe battering: some are reduced to shadows of their former selves, others become severely disturbed,” writes Roche in a paper called “The Inner World of Opus Dei.” “Internally, it is totalitarian and imbued with fascist ideas turned to religious purposes, ideas which were surely drawn from the Spain of its early years. It is virtually a sect or cult in spirit, a law unto itself, totally self-centered, grudgingly accepting Roman authority because it still considers Rome orthodox, and because of the vast pool of recruits accessible to it as a respected Catholic organization.”
    In recent years, Opus Dei has emerged internationally as one of the most powerful and politically committed of the Catholic lay groups.

    Detractors have likened the organization to a “saintly Mafia,” for its members control a large number of banks and financial institutions, including Rumasa, the largest conglomerate in Spain’s private sector. In the latter stages of the Franco regime, ten out of 19 cabinet officers belonged to or were closely allied with Opus Dei. Despite the active political role the order plays wherever it exists, Father Malcolm Kennedy, an American spokesperson for Opus Dei, insists it is “inconceivable…that Opus Dei leaders in any country would try to influence political decisions.”

    The tentacles of “Octopus Dei,” as it is sometimes called, stretch all the way to the U.S., where David Kennedy, former chairman of Continental Illinois Bank and treasury secretary under Richard Nixon, is said to be a “conspicuous friend” of the conservative religious order, despite the fact that he is a Mormon. Continental Illinois owns shares of an Opus Dei bank in Barcelona (for more on Kennedy’s links to the church, see box, page 37).

    Opus Dei also controls a wide range of media assets (600 newspapers, 52 radio and TV stations, 12 film companies and 38 news agencies) and sponsors educational and social programs in various countries. These efforts have been endorsed by members of the American section of the SMOM such as William Simon (Citicorp) and Francis X. Stankard (Chase Manhattan Bank), who have spoken at Opus Dei seminars and other functions of the group.

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Their_Will_Be_Done#Targeting_the_Pope

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    Same now opposes Trump. By using Goebbels techniques, they dupe large sectors of the population. The left, liberals, progressives, Dems, anarchists, etc, are all convinced that they are fighting for ‘a cause’, when in fact, they are fighting for the opposite. Just as the ISIS and Al Qaeda fanatics believe they are fighting for their Muslim Caliphate, when in fact, they are being used as an expendable mercenary proxy army, to serve completely different interests.

  66. ulvfugl says:

    The leader of the anti-immigration French National Front party Marine Le Pen kicked off her presidential campaign on Saturday by echoing many of the same vows that brought Trump to power in the US, hoping promises to shield voters from globalization, promote protectionism, leave the Eurozone, slap taxes on imports and on the job contracts of foreigners, lower the retirement age, increasing welfare benefits and boost defense spending push her above her competitors at a time of sweeping political turmoil in France.

    According to opinion polls – which have recently shown their utter irrelevance in the age of Brexit and Trump – the 48-year old daughter of National Front (FN) founder Jean-Marie Le Pen has a solid lead in the first round on April 23 but then losing the May 7 run-off to a mainstream candidate, who after last week’s fireworks may no longer be her main challenger Francois Fillon, thanks to a corruption scandal.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-04/le-pen-kicks-presidential-campaign-echoing-trump-highlights-her-manifesto

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    I’d suggest that it is both.

    You can get some idea as to basic intrinsic human nature by observing small children who have not yet been socialised. They demonstrate a wide range of behaviours. They can be very kind and altruistic, but also extremely cruel and selfish.

    I think that the process of socialisation, bringing them into awareness of a context shared with others just like themselves, can go badly wrong, resulting in various neurotic or pathological personalities. In other words, individuals who are very unhappy, with confused and conflicted inner worlds.

    One psychological or emotional means of dealing with such unhappiness is to direct the blame in one direction or another, so people can hate themselves, or hate some other group of people. They rationalise their hatred in all manner of ways, and it is exploited, politically.

    I have found that if I am absolutely brimming with pleasure and happiness, I cannot find any hatred, in myself, for anyone. But in more mellow times, I think that hatred is a positive, if it is directed toward an appropriate target. There are things, people, whom we ought to hate, with a valid ferocity and determination.

    But that is a kind of reasoned, or rationally harnessed, kind of hatred. It’s channelling rage, as a tool, toward some definite purpose.

    I think this can be mistaken, and can be abused. George Webb has explained that the covert agencies use this characteristic of humans, to manipulate their torturers and assassins, who are told that they people whom they hate are extremely bad, evil, people, for one reason or another. He calls it the revenge motive.

    They tell individuals lies, which the patsies believe, and so the patsies are strongly motivated and have no bad conscience about the horrible acts that they perform, because they are convinced that they act in a just and noble cause.

    So this is a tricky area. It’s ‘in groups’ and ‘out groups’. Almost everyone hates a ‘them’.

    The traditional Christian teaching is to love God and to love your neighbour as thyself, and then it extends to loving your enemies. Most people have a problem with that last bit, if not so much with the first part. I sort of see this as social conditioning towards the ideal of creating an optimal harmonious society. It sort of works, if everyone is Christian. But what happens when the pagan Vikings arrive and slaughter all your loved ones ?

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    I’d suggest that there is a saintly position, of loving everyone, that is without hatred. But it is hard to reach that position. You have to be unafraid of anyone. Which means being able to see directly into their nature, so that you understand them and their motives with perfect clarity. Otherwise, you’ll have suspicion as to whether they are going to trick or exploit you.

    This can be achieved, of course. It’s accomplished by zen masters and the like. But there’s also being unafraid of physical attack, which means being able to defend yourself and what is yours, and being confident that you can do so. Then you don’t need to be afraid, and a lot of hatred ultimately derives from hating people you are afraid of.

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    Two weeks ago, over four million Americans took to the streets to resist Donald Trump’s assault on women’s rights, immigrants, Muslims, civil liberties, workers’ rights, environmental justice, and the basic tenets of our democracy. Last weekend, Americans again took to the streets (and airports) to oppose Trump’s ban on admitting refugees and immigrants to this nation of immigrants. Every day since Trump took office, Americans have taken to the streets, and will continue to take to the streets, to challenge Trump’s threat to our democracy.

    The struggle continues. This is how people make history.

    http://www.smirkingchimp.com/print/70994/

    The way I see it, this is duplicitous propaganda. It is the Dem side that assaults ‘the basic tenets of our democracy’, by refusing to accept the result of the legitimate election, and Trump did not ‘ban admission of refugees and immigrants’, he wanted better checks to exclude undesirable criminals and terrorists. Which is what those who voted for him wanted him to do. Likewise for the rest.

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    Seemingly following Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”, Liberal Progressive Socialists appear to believe, in a Trump world, “the ends justify the means,” as evidenced by the farce in Berkeley this week. Any and everything is justified by a lying mainstream media: riots and the destruction of property, assaults on those who disagree with them, and general lawlessness – all in the name of ‘virtue signaling’.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-04/truth-about-berkeley-riot

    Of course, in the interests of balance, here is Cal’s Robert Reich to explain that the antifa riots were preconceived as a Milo, Bannon, Trump plot to control American universities…

    The events at Berkeley Wednesday night have been a boon to Milos Yiannopoulos, of Breitbart News, and to Steve Bannon, formerly head of Breitbart News and now Trump’s consigliere.

    As you may know, on Wednesday night, February 1, Berkeley gave Yiannopoulos a major forum to spout his racist and misogynistic vitriol. But police had to cancel the talk because about 150 masked agitators threw Molotov cocktails, smashed windows where Yiannopoulos was scheduled to speak, and threw rocks and fireworks at the police – delivering made-for-TV images of a riot.

    According to a promotional Breitbart story that ran before the event, Yiannopoulos was going to “call for the withdrawal of federal grants and the prosecution of university officials who endanger their students with their policies.”

    Which is exactly what Trump did via tweet early the next morning:: “If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view — NO FEDERAL FUNDS?”

    Thursday night, Yiannopoulos had a friendly interview on Fox News’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight” – a show that, according to the Washington Post, has ridden anger at left-wing activism into best-in-class prime time ratings.

    Yiannopoulos wasn’t asked about the content of the speech that was shut down. The conversation focused instead on how Berkeley proved the point that the Left was ceding its right to federal grants by cracking down on free speech.

    Which raises the possibility that Yiannopoulos and Brietbart were in cahoots with the agitators, in order to lay the groundwork for a Trump crackdown on universities and their federal funding.

    Thursday night on CNN, I said “I wouldn’t bet against” that possibility. Almost immediately an indignant article appeared in Breitbart News, misleadingly headlined “Robert Reich Lies, Claims Breitbart News Organized Berkeley Riots.”

    Hmmm. Connect these dots:

    (1) Yinnopoulos writes for Breitbart News, which Steve Bannon – Trump’s strategy director – ran before joining Trump.
    (2) Before Yiannopoulos speaks at Berkeley, Breitbart publishes an article saying that Yiannopoulos will call for the withdrawal of federal grants and the prosecution of university officials who endanger their students with their policies.
    (3) Berkeley opens its doors to Yiannopoulos, but campus police have to cancel the event because of masked agitators.
    (4) Hours later, Trump issues a misleading tweet, accusing the university of not allowing free speech and promoting violence against innocent people with different views, and threatening to withhold federal funds.
    (5) The next night, Yiannopoulos on Fox News says the incident proves that universities like Berkeley don’t deserve federal grants by cracking down on free speech.
    (6) That same night, on CNN, I raise the possibility that Yiannopoulos and Breitbart could have been collaborating with the agitators – saying “I wouldn’t bet against it.” This generates a belligerent column in Breitbart with a misleading headline calling me a liar for claiming that Breitbart News organized the riots.

    I don’t want to add to the conspiratorial musings of so many about this very conspiratorial administration, but it strikes me there may be something worrying going on here.

    I wouldn’t bet against it.

    We have no comment on the delusion above but note that Dilbert creator Scott Adams has made a major decision based on the actions…

    847328_3527 Raffie Feb 4, 2017 2:59 PM
    Showing the violent nature of the left at the Milo lecture:

    Dealing With the Violent Left & the Shooting at Milo/UW

    Trump supporter shoots one of the half dozen rioters beating him up mercilessly…until he shoots one of them.

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    I saw the police let the young man go when they saw the video it was selfdefense. Too bad the thug who beat him went o the hospital and lived.

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    If there is one thing Snopes is correct about, it is that Pakistani refugees also need to be intensely vetted, and should be on the list of countries, possibly above others Trump listed. However, Snopes is mostly doing this to dispute the notion that refugees could be dangerous. Which, given the information that is out there, is willfully ignorant at best, outright malicious at worst.

    Take a closer look at the children from the opening image, in the below video:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-04/dear-leftist-you-need-take-closer-look-real-refugees-you-denounce-vetting

    Take a good look at the world today. We have children in the streets of the United States throwing a temper tantrum because they believe that the politicians have failed. Maybe they have. They have failed them by allowing them to believe that they live in a world of sunshine and rainbows.

    Politics completely aside, this video is a snap back to reality. This is the real world that we live in today as a species. Grown men are training children, some as young as six, to move through a house in a tactical fashion with live ammunition, having them kill actual living human beings. To put the cherry on the cupcake, they are recording it with some serious production value, and then uploading it to the internet to show the world that their children are ready to die for their cause. I don’t see you marching for women and children’s rights in Syria.

    While you whine and complain about social issues that are a moot point in our society, women and children are being raped and murdered around the world by maniacs. Take a look outside of your own safe space, and realize that the world can’t be the Utopian place you want. It isn’t possible, it is never going to happen.

    This is why.

    If you think this is all just a big production, you clearly have not watched the video. Children are actually delivering kill shots on real live people. This is not The Matrix – this is the real world, and it will never cease to shock and disturb you.

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    It is not ‘white pride’, is it. It’s ‘Irish pride’. They are not the same thing, idiots.

  77. ulvfugl says:

    Don’t know if it will happen, but the pressure should scare them, which may be interesting. We’ll see what happens in the next few days.

    According to the anonymous insider:

    Information was finally submitted from the FBI to the DOJ today at 3 pm. Mr. Sessions was briefed 3 weeks ago as to the investigation in its entirety. Once assumes his position, arrest warrants will be signed, and arrests will be made. This is also why the Democratic Party in DC has been fighting the Sessions vote. Panic.

    Furthermore, starting Monday or Tuesday of next week, you will begin to start seeing arrests of individuals. Over 30 politicians (many are household names), and over 40 other individuals throughout DC, VA and also a handful in NYC. Some may off their selves before they are apprehended, so keep an eye out for that over the weekend, and you will know they are involved in some manner.

    The child pedophilia ring/sex trafficking arrests California was not related, at least no evidence yet to suggest that it was. May be wrong has people begin to talk, or make deals on the matter.

    Although the insider refused to reveal all the names on the list of those to be arrested by the FBI, they did reveal that Democrat and US Senator, Chuck Ellis Schumer, was one of the high-profile names that will be arrested, as well as Senator Tim Kaine and former Attorney General of Connecticut Richard Blumenthal.

    http://yournewswire.com/fbi-pizzagate-arrests-washington/

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    Buckingham Palace at centre of a vast paedophile network

    https://spidercatweb.blog/2015/12/24/satanic-paedophile-practices-of-british-royal-family/

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    Probably needs some mushrooms. 🙂

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    ‘Can confirm’

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    Mike Jones5 hours ago
    227,’redseven’,’Hi, dear.\r\n\r\nWe have young girls, if you want a girl of 1 year old we sell her.\r\nPlease if you\’re really interested tell us to start the purchase process.\r\n\r\nThanks you\r\n\r\nBest regards.’,’2016-03-12′,1,1),(228,’redseven’,’Hi, ok that\’s sounds great I\’d love to have a girl of 1 to 2 years old as my adopted daughter and be a part of my family. \r\nNow, please understand this, as I\’m taking all the risk here.\r\n At this point, I need to verify that this is for real, until I\’m convinced enough before I commit to any kind of payment.\r\n First, I have more questions that need to be answered, \r\n1. Canada is a very big country, can you tell me where (the province) she\’s currently in?\r\n2. Will you accept payment for her in cash when we all finally meet up to close the deal, I can pay in Canadian Dollars.\r\n3. Can you send me a photo and stats of this girl to my email address? (the one I posted in the previous messages)\r\n\r\nI\’m very interested to get a little girl, but if I simply start sending you funds via BTC or WU I\’m taking all the risk with no insurance or guarantee that your will deliver, ok?\r\n\r\nThank You. \r\n
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    236,’redseven’,’Hello,\r\n\r\nOk, I understand that if I see a girl for 1 hour, it won\’t be the same girl I will be able to buy completely, that\’s fine. The reason I want to do this first, is to verify \’proof of product\’ that you will have a little girl like this for me, before committing myself to a huge $25,000 purchase. \r\n When I\’m ready to do this, I\’ll probably to have to pay via WU, (until/unless I can get some BTC\’s, I\’m having issues buying BTC\’s securely)\r\n \r\nSo, if this is the way it works, I select Bag 1, to pay with WU, but I don\’t want 2 hours, just 1 hour. I can send a payment via WU for $300US, which when received will be converted to HC in my account, I will request to meet a girl, 1-5 years old in my area on a day and time, you will then give me the ticket with the details of where to go on that day and time. \r\nIs that basically how this will work? Just need to clarify.\r\n\r\nNow to be clear, you must have a location and get a little girl here in the METRO VANCOUVER AREA, of BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA. I cannot travel to another province or cross country to meet somewhere else, Ok?\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n’,’2016-03-16′,1,0),(237,’redseven’,’Hi, dear.\r\n\r\nYes, we work that way.\r\nOk, no problem.\r\n\r\nBest regards.’,’2016-03-17′,1,1),(238,’redseven’,’Hello, \n\n Ok, before I committ to payment, I want your assurance this is for real. You are NOT an LEA setup or \n\njust a way to steal my money without giving me anything, I feel I\’m taking a very big risk here, wish \n\nthere was a way for you to prove that your operation is legit before sending money, but I guess that\’s \n\nthe gamble I\’ll have to take.\n\nIf all goes well after this first meeting, I WILL COMMITT MYSELF TO DONATING $25,000 to adopt a little \n\ngirl into my family, it is the only thing in life I really, really want, to be her daddy. \n \nLastly, can you give me an email address that I can use to contact you, or your operations, in an \n\nemergency, in case something happens to your website(deepweb onions sites have a reputation of \n\ndisappearing for whatever reasons), if that happened all communication between us and funds would be \n\nlost. I have given you one of my secured email addresses to contact me, in a previous message.\n\nThanks again, I\’m putting my trust into your operation, I hope you will return the favor and trust me \n\nonce I begin sending payment, please do not disappoint me! \n’,’2016-03-17′,1,0),(239,’redseven’,’Hi, dear.\r\n\r\nNo problem. We mail address is hungerdeal@mail2tor.com\r\n\r\nThis mail is only been in the case the website don\’t work. \r\n\r\nBest regards.’,’2016-03-18′,1,1)
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    240,’redseven’,’Hi,\r\nAlright, I just sent a payment via WU for $390US, under bag 1.\r\nDo you need a voucher number? The one I see is: 8981441670\r\n\r\nI\’ll await confirmation that you\’ve received it. I\’d like to make arrangements ASAP. \r\nI\’ve already given you the details of the age and country/province/area of a girl I need to meet, if you need more info or have concerns you need me to verify, please let me know ASAP.\r\n\r\nNow that I have committed to this, I hope we will have complete trust and cooperation between us.\r\n\r\nThanks again.\r\n’,’2016-03-18′,1,0),(241,’poison’,’hello? is anybody there ?\r\nI need more infos about your services.\r\n\r\n‘,’2016-03-19′,1,0),(242,’poison’,’Hi,\r\n\r\nPlease read all the site.\r\n\r\nBest regards.’,’2016-03-19′,1,1),(243,’redseven’,’Hi, thanks for your advice but I ask you please don\’t send any tracking number hereby as it is of your privacy, we are only the communication sector not finance. Please send your number in the button \”send voucher\” into place of purchase you have made.\r\n\r\nOn the other hand, I wnated to comment that a superior of our company is interested to contact you about your buying interests, if you allow me I can give him your email. I consult you because I don\’t want threatening your privacy, he will contact you if you so desire.\r\n\r\nThank you so much.’,’2016-03-19′,1,1)
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    Mike Jones4 hours ago
    For anyone who doesn’t believe this goes on. From SQL dump of Freedom Hosting 2 hack
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    Kelley Southworth4 hours ago
    Mike Jones what is this? Hacked from someone?
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    Deplorable Me4 hours ago
    Kelley Southworth It’s all over on voat under PG sub. From a huge dark web dump by anonymous. one poster (if not more) forwarded it all to the FBI.
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    lansing street blues2 hours ago
    jeezus, i’m going to puke.
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    Janet F
    Janet F1 hour ago
    Gulp! God help us!
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    Lyndall Riedel38 minutes ago
    Wow! smh I’m so sick of a-holes they think they’re fine as long as they don’t get caught

  86. ulvfugl says:

    Interesting compilation of old info about what’s been going on at Antarctica

  87. ulvfugl says:

    Any appointment of Abrams to a top post in the Trump Administration, especially a post as powerful as Deputy Secretary of State, who effectively runs the day to day affairs of the U.S. diplomatic corps, would be a disaster. An even larger disaster, to be avoided, would be the flood of neocon ideologues into key State Department posts if Abrams were to get the job. Open the door a crack and the stink bugs swarm in. They never travel alone.
    No doubt, Bibi Netanyahu, who is preparing his first visit to Washington since the Trump inauguration, is crossing his fingers, and perhaps even praying that Abrams gets the job.

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/02/harper-iran-contra-liar-abrams-no-place-at-state-dept.html

  88. ulvfugl says:

    Jay Dyer (a friend of Grove btw) did a GREAT 8 part series on Tragedy and Hope. The subscribers to his site (JaysAnalysis.com) get the full 2 hr segments, but the first hour of each is free on youtube.

    I couldn’t more highly recommend listening to all 8 of the free ones. He goes through WW1 and WW2 and all the intrigues by the powers that be (Quigley calls it the “Anglo-American” establishment.) Its made up of international banking families, think tank members and such. The same group that Col L Fletcher Prouty called the “Secret Team.”

    Use mp3fy.com to download each segment to an mp3 file to listen in your car or headphones.

    Tragedy and Hope is considered to be the most important book of the past 100 years. Written in 1966. It is rumored that every CIA station chief is required to read it. There are lots of rumors about the book. Quigley told a grad student of his that he given access under one condition, no mention of the Rockefellers.

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    Thanks for this, I was looking for historical work to go back to on this.

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    thank you.

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    [–] BorisBadenov 1 points (+1|-0) 8 hours ago
    Check out tragedyandhope.com. Grove used to work for Marsh and McClennan and got seriously red-pilled after 9/11. Awesome site covering all sorts of topics but with the general theme of unraveling the nonsensical globalist worldview with facts and logic. Quigley supposedly wrote T&H in part because government employees were so confused by the empire’s incoherent foreign policy that they needed a primer on the hidden genius behind Hegelian dialecticism and how it would ultimately lead to world peace, a unicorn in every garage, rainbows everywhere, and other Utopianism. In order to understand how the Clintons can virtue signal about saving the children while hanging out with pedophiles and traffickers, it helps to know that Bill Clinton was a student of Carol Quigley.

    https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1618520

  89. ulvfugl says:



    The idea of comparing an American president to Hitler is just as absurd …from any angle, in any context. The American system ITSELF pretty much prevents “Hitlers” from showing up. And America ITSELF is anathema to what Hitler was trying to create. An American ANYTHING or ANYONE is hard to fit into the Hitler model. It’s just not apples to apples.

    There are some fundamental things to understand about Hitler:

    https://regiehammblog.wordpress.com/2017/02/01/this-hitler-nonsense/

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