Meini Hirion, Long Stones, Silent Voices, Strange Quests, Sanchuniathon




Truly random systems cannot reveal patterns but only coincidences which humans mistake for patterns (Knuth, 1969; Tezuka, 1995). When real patterns are revealed then chaos is said to be present. Chaos, the apparent state of disorder or irregularity, is in fact a state in which strict determinism reigns but the flow of the patterns is formidably hard to predict owing to the primitive nature of contemporary mathematical models and computer technology.



If there is only one reality which we all share on this planet, in the present, here and now, which then becomes the past, which gradually becomes more distant, and becomes what we call history, then how is it possible to have very many versions of the past ?

You know, even for the very recent past, last week, we get contested versions of what really happened. And as we all know, the Americans won the Second World War. Or was it the British ? Actually, it was the Russians. Although the Ukrainians deny this, and say it was them.


Nobody can agree what happened within living memory, at a time when we have more records than at any other period.

So this is a problem.

Whose past are we talking about ? Whose history is it ?


Adam will have had his view of what happened in the Garden of Eden.

Eve had her perspective, the Serpent a third, the Tree sees things differently, everything in the Garden has its own angle on events, so which viewpoint are we going to consider, where do we place the camera, the God’s Eye view ?

I mean, being human, we are anthropocentric, it takes conscious effort to see things the way the hawk and mouse, the spider, the fly, see them…


You can disregard the stones and the invisible air, but without them, this ball of rotating rock, this envelope of gas, we would not be here….

Events occur, processes happen, all kinds of changes, and they leave results, traces, and time moves on. This is all very very strange, but this is the nature of the world, the Universe, as we find it to be.

So, regarding the past, especially the distant past, we face these traces, and ponder, what do they mean ?


What happened ? What sort of events occurred that might have produced these sort of marks, these traces ?

So it is a bit like a detective at a crime scene, and there is the dead body in the armchair and the pistol laying on the carpet, and you’ve got to figure out, was it murder or suicide, or maybe something quite different that does not fit the classic pattern.

But in the distant past, when there have been many, many changes and much disturbance, there might not even be any body or armchair, just the impression left by the pressure of the chair legs, and the pistol has rusted away, leaving merely a shadow of metallic ore. So then, there is so much left blank, that anyone can fill in the spaces with any interpretation that their imagination can conjure up.

So this is another problem.


Do we just give up, or do we stay with the few clues we have, which say almost nothing, or do we go with the conjecture and speculation and flights of fancy ?

For some, the anguish of not knowing seems too much to bear, so they fill in with fantasies. But I do not like that. I would like to get as close as possible to the ‘one thing’, that conceptual notion, that there is, and was, only one real true reality at any given time.

Is that a justifiable and sustainable philosophical stance ? Hahaha


I’m not 100% certain. I could probably shred it, if someone else proposed it, but it sounds good to me for the moment…

You see, this is awfully near to the Cartesian Enlightenment paradigm that I am forever attacking.

The basis of the scientific project, that begins with Francis Bacon, mostly, opening Pandora’s Box…

The idea that there is a fixed objective observer, who can measure all of that fixed objective ‘stuff’ out there, and get a handle on it, and by this means we can wrest Mother Nature’s secrets from her bosom.


And after four hundred years or so, of remarkable progress in applying that methodology, not only has it lead us to catastrophic disaster, just as we were warned that opening the Box would do, (because we lack restraint, judgement, wisdom) but that the fundamental premise was incorrect.


There is no objective separate neutral observer, who can measure the material ‘stuff’. We now find, the pinnacle of the journey, the jewel at the heart of the project of science, the greatest theory that we have managed to come up with, telling us that everything that we assumed was WRONG….


Observing the stuff changes it. The Quantum Zeno Effect. The statues that do not move while you are watching them. But as soon as you turn your back…


Well, yes, for sure, this is at extreme conditions close to absolute zero, etc, and some will say not relevant at our macro scale. But we heard all that before. And it turned out to be nonsense, quantum effects are widespread in the warm, wet world of biological systems, and appear to be a means of stored information in the genome, relevant to epigenetics, and much more besides. And the more that is discovered the weirder it gets.

I’m not nearly as confident in the ‘one reality’ as I once was.

I think our conceptual notions regarding ‘reality’, arising from the Cartesian paradigm, are crude, primitive, inadequate.


Do I have some alternative, some replacement, to offer ? Not at the moment. It’s simply much too difficult, much too complicated, much too demanding.

And much too scary.

You know, human beings, fragile little ants in all this immense vastness, clinging on. We need our stories to make sense of what is happening. If they dissolve, then that is a frightening, terrifying experience to face.


Consider the position of people in 19th C England (and elsewhere since) who were deeply religious since childhood, going to church and being faithful and seriously devoted to the biblical teachings, being told that what they trusted was all wrong, that God had not made the world as it said in Genesis, but it was all geology and biology and evolution and so forth, according to Darwin. I mean, this is a horrifying thing to hear, and they were naturally hostile and appalled.

But now what has happened, the ardent followers of science have become every bit as bogged down in dogma and faith and blind ideology, they are just as scared of ‘the new’ that will turn their belief system upside down and inside out.

That’s what I call scientism. The sort of ludicrous Disney World Lego Land American Pop version of science, that makes it into info-tainment, where there is a crass mechanistic Cartesian materialist view, promoted to fit the corporate agenda of Big Chem and Big Ag and Big Pharma and the rest of them. It’s ugly and ghastly and deceitful, because it is about money, exploitation and power, not about truth.


Nevermind, I have my own interesting avenues to pursue. What we have now is the post modern stewpot, where all the myriad stories wrangle and fight…


MANY PEOPLE ACCEPT AS TRUE, or at least partially true, numerous assertions that seem laughable or absurd to critics. A Harris poll a few years back reported that only 47 percent of adult Americans accepted the reality of evolution: more than half the population still denies the basic lynchpin of scientific biology. Meanwhile, 42 percent accept the reality of ghosts, 29 percent put their faith in astrology, and a quarter of the population think they’ll be reincarnated in another body. Others think they’ll go to heaven or perhaps suffer eternal punishment in hell.

What of the paranormal? Popular acceptance of telepathy (fetching knowledge directly from somebody else’s mind), remote viewing (detecting data from afar), precognition (accurately foretelling the future), and psychokinesis (moving stuff by wishing it) has been clocked at 41 percent and above.

It turns out that paranormal believers are right to accept the reality of at least some anomalous phenomena. This review examines two formidable books presenting evidence and preliminary theory for psi (the catch-all term for such apparent impossibilities). One comes in two hefty volumes, while the other is a monstrous paperback.


What happens to you, as an individual person, when you have many of these different worldviews, belief systems, or ideological positions, coexisting in your head simultaneously ? Can you be a fascist and a liberal and a communist and a catholic and buddhist and a scientist and a mystic and a …… all at the same time ? Or take turns expressing those stances ? Or do you have to sort through them and choose ? Or can you take a sort of meta position, that hovers above them all ?


I mean, if I sat you down for five minutes and gave you a severe interrogation on this, you’d be in melt down, a nervous breakdown. That’s because I know how to do it. Because I am very good at this stuff. Because I have been through it myself.


I know which belief is incompatible and irreconcilable with which other belief. If you try to hold both at the same time,you are going to be in trouble. It’s not difficult to understand. There’s videos, a raccoon I think, that tries to pick up two melons at once. It is impossible. It’s greed. Rather than be happy and run off with one, it stays there and keeps dropping the two it cannot manage.


Jesus said it. You cannot serve God and Mammon. Either your top priority is the sacred, the good, serving all that is holy, continually purifying yourself as you go from moment to moment, devoted to the divine. Or you chase after making money, getting rich, which means doing whatever it takes to get one over on the other guy so that you make a profit on the deal. It just is not possible to do both, because you’ll mess up, they are not half measure sort of tasks, they need all your commitment.

If you are the one, it never crosses your mind to steal the other guy’s wallet, if he loses it, you help him search, if you see him drop it, you run after him ‘Hey, you dropped this, mate’.

If you are the other, you spend all your time plotting and scheming how you can separate the other guy from his wallet, because how else are you going to get richer, except by taking from others ? I mean, you can get rich by what others give you,of their own volition, but that’s not nearly as easy. They have to like and approve and need what you offer. And those pesky market forces. It’s very hard work, slow. Much easier to grab what another has, and climb over piles of bodies, no ?

Capitalists like Social Darwinism, it eases their conscience.


I guess almost all of us, everyone who reads this blog, will be in the postmodern stewpot sort of condition, unless you subscribe 100% to some particular belief. There are people who have arrived at a very strong commitment to the alien invasion hypothesis, for example, who maintain that alien beings introduced their DNA around the time of early Sumer, I think.

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And there are people who are devout Hindu, or Russian Orthodox or Quaker or whatever.

It’s not for me to tell anyone what they should or shouldn’t believe, is it. I have my own opinions and preferences.


As Plato has Protagoras say, ” The way things appear to me, in that way do they exist for me. The way things appear to you, in that way do they exist for you. “

Plato did not like Protagoras’s doctrine.

Plato responded, ” If the way that things appear to me, in that way do they exist for me, and the way that things appear to you, in that way do they exist for you, it appears to me that your whole doctrine is false “.

So Plato wins ?

But Plato could only avoid Protagoras’s relativism by appealing to an absolute as a

foundation for his philosophy, which he called ‘ the Good ‘.

Which is really just another way of saying the ‘ God ‘, – be it any one of

the range of those Absolutes or Noumena on choice ( all of which only differ by name,

cultural context, or other human idiosyncrasy )

– and, seeing that nobody can agree what the Good, or the God, actually is, ( not even the philosophers, theologians, gurus, or other great minds, let alone the common people, let some 2,500 years of history be my witness on that ) nor does there seem to be any likelihood of such agreement, ever, then, the way that it appears to me, is that the victory stands with dear old Protagoras, bless him.

But maybe we can all agree, approximately, on what is the Bad ? Probably not.


My personal solution was to take the path of zen buddhism, after having been brought up being indoctrinated with several different beliefs. My view of zen buddhism is that it is a unique school, because the aim is to get free from all beliefs and ideologies, including, ultimately, zen buddhism.


” My mind in the flash of a trembling glance came to Absolute Being – That Which Is..”

St. Augustine.


But then what ? I mean, it is an extremely demanding path to follow.

Look where it has lead me. Hahahaha

Am I really the only person, the only person in Britain, the only person in the world who sees this ?

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That stone with the wavy edge, that I think is the same sign as the Phoenician symbol for water ?

The symbol written as WWY, or something like, because they had to use straight lines in their script, no curves. But if you pronounce the sound that it makes, in English, it makes ‘why’ and if you translate that, as a word, into Welsh, well, it is the name of a river. Wye.

And the scholars say that the name comes from the Welsh name for the river, which is Gwy, which they say means crooked, winding, bendy. As in the stone circle called Meini Gwyr, which they translate as The Crooked Stones.

However, that is modern Welsh, and if you check ancient obsolete Welsh, you’ll get a better insight into what the word means. The root is WY which means WATER.

The same meaning as that symbol had in Phoenician.

And then, you see how the undulating sign for water, gets to mean ‘winding, bendy, crooked’

So the stone is saying, plain as the day, that there is water, a river, a channel, an estuary ahead….

Hahaha. This is quite odd, no ? Do I imagine this, am I all alone, the only one ?

How come three centuries of thousands of antiquaries, archaeology professors with fat salaries and teams of graduates, hordes of hippies and earth mystery fanatics, nobody has noticed ? How is that possible ? What’s the matter with you all ?


” There is no logical impossibility in the supposition that the whole of life is a dream, in which we ourselves create all the objects that come before us.”

Bertrand Russell.


Scientists love this buzz, they chase it, to be the first to discover, the first ever to see some new and unknown thing. But I am not a scientist. Not at all. I just live here. And look.

Will others see it ? Can others see it ? Do others see it ? Should others see it ?

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XIR240922 Character from the Commedia dell’Arte (oil on canvas) by Gillot, Claude (1673-1722)
oil on canvas
Musee Boucher de Perthes, Abbeville, France
Lauros / Giraudon
French, out of copyright

If what I am saying above is true, it has enormous repercussions. There are hundreds of millions of people walking around today who believe that unless you accept Jesus as God, you are headed straight for eternal damnation. Most of these people also believe in the literal truth of the New Testament. What will they do when they learn that the New Testament itself doesn’t teach that Jesus is God?

This might be a liberating experience for some, but it’s just as likely to be a dispiriting and disorienting one. To have the bedrock of your faith crumble away under you is no small thing. It takes away the sole support that many people have.

This may be why most of the things in this article, while reflecting mainstream scholarship, remain virtually unknown. The clergy — at least in mainstream Protestantism and Catholicism — learned most of these things in seminary; it is not news to them. But they are reluctant or afraid to reveal them. Neither their education nor their denominations have prepared them to do so.

Eventually the truth will come out. What will happen when it does? I’m reminded of a passage in The Tree of Life Oracle, a fortune-telling deck based on the Kabbalistic Tree of Life by Quest contributor Cherry Gilchrist and Gila Zur. There is a card called “The Veil.” Here is the interpretation:

When the veil descended, men revered what it covered. And as time went on it seemed to hide more and more and was revered more and more. Then, when it was heavy with age, young men fresh and arrogant demanded the removal of the veil and demanded to see what was hidden. For they said that whatever is hidden from the people cannot be for the common good. In the thunder and lightning of indignation, the veil was torn down. Nothing lay beyond. At first the young men were startled, but then they laughed jubilantly at the absurd fraud they thought they had uncovered. And the old men grieved, cursing the young men because they had destroyed the veil. (Gilchrist and Zur, 108)


What he has to say there about the Logos is extraordinarily interesting, I have written about that before, and am tempted to do more now, but will save for another time.

Consider this though, re the Zeno Effect. We, the observer, are also chemicals, atoms, and must also be subject to the same laws as the observed….

Amidst the immense turmoil of it all, it is necessary to be still. Absolutely still. To fix time and space and all that exist and freeze, it in the now. I have explained how one can do this, elsewhere, already.

Because, otherwise, if you get pulled out, from that still centre, right at the middle, the axis of the wheel where nothing turns, where there is no rotation, then you start to spin, and the further away you get, the more dizzy, everything is swirling, and nausea and confusion, and craziness.


“In 1273, Marco Polo visited Alamut, and brought back the story of how hashish was used to attract potential killers…After, Dante was the first to use the word “assassin” in the 19th Canto of The Inferno in his Divine Comedy. The word “assassin” remained in various European languages, right through to Dan Brown, author of the Da Vinci Code, who mentions the Assassins in his book, Angels and Demons. But there are a few reasons why the hashish-assassin myth is almost certainly wrong….If hashish is given in a large enough dose to cause unconsciousness, it will first cause nausea and hallucinations – which are usually very scary and unpleasant to the unsuspecting user.”


Thinking of Marco Polo reminded me….

He passed through the vast wilderness of the Gobi Desert. It took him a month

to cross it.

His narrative recalls that when a man is riding through the desert at night and gets separated from his companions, he hears spirit voices talking to him, as if they were his real companions, sometimes even speaking to him by name. He says that even during the day one can hear these spirit voices, and often hear music from instruments and drums, and the sound of the clash of weapons. Often these voices would lure men away from the path, to become hopelessly lost, and never to find it again. He says that many travellers died because of this phenomenon.


A person comes in to your clinic—any clinic—and says “I am a voice-hearer”. What do they mean? Auditory verbal hallucinations have been clinically defined as auditory perceptions in the absence of an appropriate external stimulus. This definition seems fairly neutral, even benign: it is simply hearing a sound when no sound is present, hearing a voice when there is no-one speaking. However, far more powerful, and at times pernicious, is the idea that hearing voices is first and foremost a feature of severe mental illness, and therefore that it must necessarily involve hearing loud commanding, abusive, or commentating voices.

People do report such experiences but they are by no means the whole story. In fact, people hear voices in a wide range of circumstances: for some it is an unremarkable feature of everyday experience, for others it is part of religious and spiritual devotion, an aspect of bereavement, or a source of intense creativity. Studies have shown that voice-hearing in the general population is more common than is usually thought and that up to 13% of people will hear voices at some point during their adult lives. People can hear voices during extreme states of physical exertion or sensory deprivation, and in the context of various neurological and physiological disorders, as well as in a range of psychiatric diagnoses.

Like having a fast heart rate, then, hearing voices can occur in a range of contexts and in states which may or may not be regarded clinically as pathological. People who have tachycardia may be exercising feverishly, smoking heavily, or experiencing intense anxiety in response to a social stimulus, but common to all is a resting heart rate of more than 100 beats per minute. By contrast, and even in the absence of any definitive biomarkers for auditory verbal hallucinations, first-person testimonies and phenomenological studies of voice-hearing repeatedly highlight the heterogeneity of these experiences. Indeed, these accounts call into question the very terms “voice” and “hearing”: some people report hearing non-verbal cries, rustling or buzzing, some describe experiences of “shouting thoughts” and “soundless voices”, others are in communication with alters or other aspects of the self.


Gurdjieff was also out in the Gobi. He described an expedition he made in 1898, with some companions from the Brotherhood of Seekers of Truth, into the desert in search of lost cities.

One of the difficulties they faced was the impenetrable sandstorms which made any

movement impossible. They overcame this seemingly insurmountable obstacle by

devising twenty-foot-high stilts, which allowed the wearer to get above the layer

of blowing sand and to travel with relative ease, because the upper surface of the sand

storm corresponded to the irregular contours of the hidden dunes below.


I have always loved reading about adventures and explorations, since I first learned to read, as a small boy. The books I was reading would spill over and pre-occupy my imagination. Wilfred Thesiger in the Empty Quarter… I adored anything like that. So I loved Marco Polo and Gurdjieff, and to learn this sort of thing, some science report I just found on an file from 1998


Stone Stumps Are Clues To Inca Astronomy —

Archaeologists have unearthed artifacts in South America that shed light on how the Inca organized their sun-worship rituals and how they physically kept track of the sun’s movements. The discovery also reveals a subtle strategy the Inca employed to maintain plebeian awe of the Inca elite.

According to University of Illinois at Chicago archaeologist Brian Bauer, “many scholars of Latin American antiquity believe that the Inca built large stone pillars to record the sun’s horizon location at the June and December solstices, but archaeologists had not found physical evidence of the pillars and there had been no detailed investigation into the organization of the solstice rituals.”

During a survey of pre-Hispanic sites on the Island of the Sun, in Lake Titicaca, Bauer and colleagues David Dearborn of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and graduate student Matthew Seddon of the University of Chicago discovered the remains of two stone pillars. They also found a large platform area just outside the walls of a sanctuary on the island. Archaeological and astronomical research, which the team presents in the Sept. 24 issue of Latin American Antiquity, suggests the Inca used the site to support the elites’ claim to power through elaborate solar rituals, perhaps using “two-tiered worship.”

In the early 15th century, the Inca empire — the largest state to develop in the Americas — expanded into the Lake Titicaca region in modern-day Peru and Bolivia and usurped the Island of the Sun from local control. The island and a sacred rock, which locals believed was the birthplace of the sun, had been the focus of worship for centuries, said Bauer.

Under the Inca it became one of the most important pilgrimage centers in South America. “The Inca nobility, as well as members of the general populace, journeyed to the island to worship and make offerings in a sanctuary plaza next to the sacred rock,” said Bauer.

The team’s research indicates that, on the June solstice, the Inca king and high priests of the empire assembled in a small plaza beside the sacred rock to witness the dramatic setting of the sun between the stone pillars. Their findings also indicate that, as the elite paid homage to the sun from within the sanctuary, lower-class pilgrims observed the event from a second platform outside the sanctuary wall.

From the perspective of the lower-class pilgrims, the sun set between the stone pillars — and directly over the ruling elite, who called themselves the children of the sun. “We’re proposing that the platform outside the sanctuary walls represents a segregation of the elite and non-elite classes of sun worship,” said Bauer. “This adds a new dimension to the practice of the solar cult that was not distinctly recorded in accounts of similar state rituals in the imperial capital, Cusco.

“While both groups participated in solar worship, the non-elites simultaneously offered respect to the sun and the children of that deity. This physical segregation emphasized that the Inca alone had direct access to the powers of the sun,” he said. The two stone pillars were erected on a natural ridge 600 meters to the northwest of the sacred rock. The plaza adjacent to the sacred rock was rectangular in shape, roughly 80 meters long and 35 meters wide, with the long axis pointing in the direction of the June solstice sunset. A sanctuary wall to the south and east blocked access to the site, which could only be reached through a gate. The secondary plaza, accessible to all pilgrims, was just outside the sanctuary wall and about 250 meters southeast of the sacred rock plaza.

Bauer said the remnants of stone pillars are similar to pillars around Cusco which were described by several Spanish chroniclers of the 16th century. Those pillars were large enough to be seen against the setting sun at a distance of 15 kilometers. One such set of pillars marked where the sun sets at the June solstice, the northernmost point at which the sun crosses the horizon. Unfortunately, said Bauer, a combination of post-conquest looting and recent urban growth in the Cusco valley has destroyed the area where the Cusco pillars once stood. Bauer and Dearborn’s research on the Island of the Sun is a continuation of their long-standing joint research on Inca astronomy.

They are the authors of Astronomy and Empire in the Ancient Andes (University of Texas Press), which examines the origins and organization of Inca astronomy in Cusco. Bauer declared that the findings from the Island of the Sun are “the first discovery and documentation of similar pillars outside the imperial capital of the Inca.” 25-Sep-1998 More Science Coverage: UniSci Science and Research News


And now Gurdjieff again, returning us to the standing stones….

Gurdjieff describes something like this in Meetings with Remarkable Men, in his account of a journey to a secret monastery in Turkestan.

In Turkestan there are many of these monuments, which are very cleverly placed; without them, we travelers would have no possibility of orienting ourselves in this chaotic, roadless region. They are usually erected on some elevated spot so that, if one knows the general plan of their placement, they can be seen a long way off, sometimes even from a score of miles. They are nothing more than single high blocks of stone or simply long poles driven into the ground.

Among the mountain folk there exist various beliefs concerning these monuments, such as the following: that at this spot some saint was either buried or taken up to heaven, that he killed the ‘seven-headed dragon’ there, or that something else extraordinary happened to him in that place. Usually the saint in whose name the monument was erected is considered the protector of the entire surrounding countryside, and when a traveler has successfully overcome any difficulty natural to the region–that is, escaped an attack by brigands or wild beasts, or has safely crossed a mountain or river, or surmounted any other danger–it is all attributed to the protection of this saint.

And so any merchant, pilgrim or other traveler who has passed through these dangers brings to the monument some kind of offering in gratitude. It became an established custom to bring as an offering something which, as is believed there, would mechanically remind the saint of the prayers of the person who brought the offering. Accordingly, they bring gifts such as a piece of cloth, the tail of an animal or something else of the kind, so that, with one end tied or fastened to the monument, the other end can flutter freely in the wind.

These things, moving in the wind, make the spot where the monument is placed visible to us travelers from a great distance. Whoever knows approximately the arrangement of these monuments can locate one of them from some elevated spot and make his way in its direction, and from it to the next, and so on. Without knowing the general pattern of their arrangement it is almost impossible to travel through these regions.

There are no well-defined roads or footpaths and, if some paths do form themselves, then, owing to the sudden changes of weather and the ensuing snowstorms, they very quickly change or are totally effaced. So if these landmarks were not there, a traveller trying to find suitable paths would become so confused that even the most delicate compass would be of no help to him.

It is possible to pass through these regions only by establishing the direction from monument to monument.. In this remarkable fusion of geography and allegory, Gurdjieff describes what Chatwin might have considered the origin of the fall–attributable less to human sin than to the restive demons of geology who created mountains, the first of the striated spaces; for in the mountains, the subtlety of the desert’s immanence and the precision of the walkabout becomes the drama of quest, transcendence and abstract monumentality.

The markers are memorials to beings who have negotiated terrific ordeals and who can be mechanically induced to protect travelers who are essentially aliens wandering in the mountainous void. No singers, no songs, no step-for-step tracing and recreation of the path. Here the path is contingent, no compass can help, only the marker-monuments flapping in the wind on the promontories can guide the traveler.

Gurdjieff’s own spiritual journey is congruent with his physical one. The monastery is the reward for an arduous and mysterious journey. The utopian home must be earned, by quest and ordeal.

And I realise that all those stories that I have enjoyed in my life, wild exotic romantic adventures, and fascinating details about far off cultures, have all been rather safe, because so removed by time and space, so distant.


And now I have these stones, upon my own doorstep, so to speak, and that is all rather unsettling, and the adventure is not ‘out there’, it never ever really was ‘out there’,it has always been an exploration ‘in here’, through me, through whatever it is that being me, is.


These stones that I have been following are pathways, trackways, through my own existence…  

You know… the Grail Quest…


This insight… sets me back somewhat…


Nevermind. I am a man of courage and valour, I shall proceed undaunted… 🙂


I see I have reached my 5000 word mark, where I usually try to stop for the sake of my poor readers, who drop by the wayside and die in the ditches, unless the paramedics can save them in time with comforting salutations and stimulants, not that I care…


Walking on moss, mud, eggshells or trampling over dead men’s skulls, what difference does it make, I am still ulvfugl, I have no option, just have to carry on….


So  one more important thing…

Many years ago I read some amazing stuff, concerning Sanchuniathon, but it was in some weird alternative underground zine, and I was told by a respectable academic to disregard it because it was all forgeries and inventions and rubbish.

But it seems not so !

So we must look at it again. From the ancient Phoenicians…

The supposed Sanchuniathon claimed to have based his work on “collections of secret writings of the Ammouneis discovered in the shrines”, sacred lore deciphered from mystic inscriptions on the pillars which stood in the Phoenician temples, lore which exposed the truth—later covered up by invented allegories and myths……

…..much of what has been preserved in this writing, despite the euhemeristic interpretation given it, turned out to be supported by the Ugaritic mythological texts excavated at Ras Shamra (ancient Ugarit) in Syria since 1929; Otto Eissfeldt demonstrated in 1952[7] that it does incorporate genuine Semitic elements that can now be related to the Ugaritic texts, some of which is shown in our versions of Sanchuniathon, remained unchanged since the second millennium BC.


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74 Responses to Meini Hirion, Long Stones, Silent Voices, Strange Quests, Sanchuniathon

  1. ulvfugl says:

    An Unknown Lady with a Lawn Ruff,
    possibly Elizabeth Stafford, Lady Drury (1546 – 1599)
    British (English) School, 1500 – 1599
    Oil on panel, 559 x 470 mm


  2. ulvfugl says:

    I recommend reading Anthony C Suttons book Americas Secret Establishment. In fact all of his books if you havent already.

    For Hegelians, the State is almighty, and seen as “the march of God on earth.” Indeed, a State religion. Progress in the Hegelian State is through contrived conflict: the clash of opposites makes for progress.

    If you can control the opposites, you dominate the nature of the outcome.
    We trace the extraordinary Skull and Bones influence in a major Hegelian conflict: Naziism vs. Communism.

    Skull and Bones members were in the dominant decision-making positions – Bush, Harriman, Stimson, Lovett, and so on – all Bonesmen, and instrumental in guiding the conflict through use of “right” and “left.”

    They financed and encouraged the growths of both philosophies and controlled the outcome to a significant extent.

    This was aided by the “reductionist” division in science, the opposite of historical

    By dividing science and learning into narrower and narrower segments, it became easier to control the whole through the parts.”

    This of course extends to the domestic left/right paradigm too.

    Posted by: Bob | Dec 21, 2015 2:42:48 AM | 77

  3. ulvfugl says:


    Tiny figurines that may have been used as rattling toys or charms to ward off evil spirits were discovered in the grave of an infant dating back 4,500 years, archaeologists say.

    The burial was discovered on the northwest shore of Lake Itkul in the Minusinsk basinin Russia. The infant’s remains, which were found in what appears to be a birchbark cradle, suggest he or she was less than a year old at death. On the infant’s chest, archaeologists found “eight miniature horn figurines representing humanlike characters and heads of birds, elk, boar and a carnivore,”wrote archaeologists Andrey Polyakov and Yury Esin, in an article published recently in the journal Archaeology, Ethnology & Anthropology of Eurasia.

    The intricately carved figurines were likely made from deer antlers and have traces of red paint on them. “Some of [the figurines] have internal cavities and, upon coming in contact with each other, could produce noisy sounds like modern rattles,” wrote Polyakov, of the Russian Academy of Sciences, and Esin, of the Khakassian Research Institute of Language, Literature and History.

  4. ulvfugl says:

    One of the ongoing debates in modern physics is between the dark matter hypothesis and the hypothesis that phenomena attributed to dark matter is actually a result of us using inaccurate laws of gravity that require modification.

  5. ulvfugl says:


    Archaeologists working at the ancient city of Baalbek in present-day Lebanon, reported that they have found this season stone monolith was the biggest in history.

    Stone block is 19.6 meters long, 6 meters wide and 5.5 meters in height. Its weight is estimated in 1650 US “short” tons, which is more than 1496 metric tons. It is the largest monolith stone objects processed by man. I made it was in the I century BC. e.

    Huge blocks of stone were used to build the Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek, bore the name while Heliopolis and Julia Augusta Felix. Some blocks of the temple grounds weigh 8000 – 1000 tons. But the biggest blocks found in a limestone quarry, located near the temple complex. Maybe they just have not been able to move to the construction site.

    In 1999, scientists have determined that the weight of the largest of which is 1242 tons – at that time it was known the maximum weight of the stone objects made by people. New record monolith found by this unit.

    The excavation, during which a record was found a block of stone, conducted this summer, scientists from the German Archaeological Institute and the Lebanese University under the direction of Jeanine Abdul Massih.

    For scientists remains a mystery technology movement and placement as huge stones. The statement emphasizes the expedition: “Because it has a relatively smooth surface, the unit can be moved. In this case upon a rock no traces of attempts to cut it into pieces.”


  6. ulvfugl says:

    It is fine to criticize Hersh. His reporting often relies on anonymous sources. But throughout his career Hersh’s reporting was proven right more often than his critics criticism of it. Here the criticism of Hersh relies on a small tunnel vision of what Dempsey claimed he wanted in a public hearing without regard of the context of Dempsey’s claim. Dempsey wanted to replace the then still secret CIA arming program that the DIA and other parts of the military had rightly found to be on a very dangerous path.

    The Pentagon under Dempsey, fearing the CIA was repeating old errors, was turf fighting against the CIA under neocon Petraeus and later under the great friend of Saudi Arabia John Brennan. Unfortunately the White House backed the CIA and thereby, more or less willfully, allied with the Islamic State and the other assorted Jihadi organizations (pdf) in Syria.

    So it seems absolutely fair and established that all of that ISIS murder, mayhem, savage barbarity can be blamed on the White House, The CIA, Britain, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

    And Turkey of course, as a tool.

    They were the main forces that pushed it. While pretending they had nothing to do with it.

    David Cameron,,,.

  7. ulvfugl says:

    …..The debate over Sanchuniathon has gone on for centuries. For a while, he was considered a forgery (he’s obviously not Bronze Age, at any rate), but the Ugarit texts and others have shown he recorded some genuine Phoenician-Semitic-Canaanite material. But it’s equally obvious that his version has been heavily rationalized and reflects Hellenistic Greek learning, including Orphic cosmogony. The degree to which Sanchuniathon himself did this (or even existed) and the degree to which Philo of Byblos was responsible for it has long been debated. For what it’s worth, I think the Orphic parallels involve influence from Greece reworking a substratum of Phoenician material.


    It is now, however, so universally agreed that this work is the forgery of a later age that it is unnecessary to make any further remarks upon it.

  8. ulvfugl says:

    317. Sanchuniathon was not, as was once commonly believed, rehashing Greek myth in an attempt to prove the superiority and higher antiquity of Phoenician religion. Archaeology has uncovered at Ras-Shamra-Ugarit the second-millennium BC native Canaanite mythology of which Sanchuniathon’s is an idiosyncratic version. We find Sanchuniathon’s supreme god, Zeus, Demarous or Adodos, featuring in the Ugaritic texts under the names Baal (= Zeus) and Hadad (= Adodos), the son of Dagan (Sanchuniathon’s Dagon). His brothers are Mot, Death (Sanchuniathon’s Mouth) and Yam, Sea (Sanchuniathon’s Pontos). Demarous conflicts with Pontos in Sanchuniathon, and is at first worsted, only to escape from his clutches later, as Baal conflicts with Yam in the Ugaritic texts, being at first overawed by his power, but at last subduing him. In Sanchuniathon, Elos-Kronos abandons his original kingdom to Zeus-Demarous or Adodos, the new “king of gods” and retires to lands south-west of Phoenicia, specifically Egypt and Ethiopia. (Sanchuniathon calls Elos’ destination the “Land of the South.” This phrase was used in Jubilees [§71, above, >>] as a description of the homeland of Ham and his sons in Africa, whither they migrated from Babel. It is the Biblical Pathros, Egyptian Pa-to-reshi, “Land of the South,” i.e. Upper Egypt around Thebes and neighboring territories.) Similarly in Canaanite myth, El (Sanchuniathon’s Elos) is the elder statesman of the pantheon, a “deus otiosus,” whose place at the head of the pantheon has been transferred to Baal-Hadad (Sanchuniathon’s Zeus-Demarous or Adodos). El meanwhile has retired to his dwelling-place far away “at the source of the rivers, amidst the springs of the two deeps.” In Canaanite myth “Bull” El is a fertile, prolific figure, and the divine husband of several goddesses, as is Elos-Kronos in Sanchuniathon.

  9. ulvfugl says:

  10. Hagazussa says:

    To add to your comment from the 21st, 11.06 h
    I found this article tries up quite a few of the “loose ends, all the players are there – and how they deceive each other in their psychopathic mania.

    A wonderful gallery, as always! I haven’t read the essay yet, but I look forward to it.

  11. ulvfugl says:

    Thanks Hagazussa… 🙂

    US using Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia using criminals

    Known and documented, Saudi Arabia has played a key strategic role in promoting and financing terrorism on behalf of Washington. Moreover, Saudi weapons purchases from the US and Canada are also being used to equip and arm various “opposition” rebel groups in Syria including the ISIL and Al Nusrah.
    We have reached an agreement with them that they will be exempted from the death sentence and given a monthly salary to their families and loved ones, who will be prevented from traveling outside Saudi Arabia in return for rehabilitation of the accused and their training in order to send them to Jihad in Syria.
    This “version of Wahhabism” has nothing to with Islam, it’s “Made in America”, its a diabolical tool of US foreign policy, which consists in applying and manipulating the ideology of Wahhabism as a means of recruiting and indoctrinating terrorists to wage a “jihad” on behalf of Uncle Sam.

    Posted by: From The Hague | Dec 22, 2015 12:40:23 PM | 65

  12. ulvfugl says:

    It is not worth reporting on the rest of Hersh’s article.

    Seymour Hersh appears not to know that ISIS has always worked for the USA and its allies.

    Seymour Hersh appears not to realise that the attempt by certain US generals to give Assad certain ‘intelligence’ was always a trick.

    Hersh is doing the work of Mossad.

  13. ulvfugl says:

    I’ve decided to start a new blog post for more thoughts about the stones, so will posr other topics in the comments here, as previously.

  14. ulvfugl says:

    WE ARE ALREADY IN WW3, just that the masses are too dumb to have noticed, because a talking head didn’t come on the TV yet and make ‘an official announcement’.

    I hope I’m wrong but I fear Washington is trying to provoke a war in the Middle East to cover the coming collapse of the Petrodollar system and the American economy when the dollar is no longer the world reserve currency. The war is necessary to blame the coming dollar and debt collapse on Russia and China rather where it belongs on Wall Street, the central banking cartel and Washington political establishment.

    Remember while a Washington provoked war or conflict is likely to start in the Shia Crescent; it could spread across the Middle East and into Europe.

    That’s really an ad to get people to buy gold, which is the backers for ZH plugging themselves, and can be disregarded, because by the time the war becomes open military exchanges between NATO, or German or British proxies, with the Russians, or Iranians or Chinese, it’ll inevitably become nuclear all out, and nothing like the last World War, or previous wars, which is what the idiots always begin by fighting..

    And all this because of a small group of maniacs.

  15. ulvfugl says:

    If there’s a silver lining in Turkey’s brazen move to shoot down a Russian Su-24 near the Syrian border late last month, it’s that it gave Putin the excuse he needed to expose Ankara’s role in bankrolling Sunni extremism in the Mid-East.

    Despite the fact that fomenting sectarian discord and creating the type of instability that leads to regime change is part and parcel of US foreign policy, the general public is blissfully ignorant when it comes to the role played by Washington and its Mid-East allies in fostering the kind of chaotic conditions under which groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda thrive. Generally speaking, everyday Westerners are happy to remain in the dark about such things but when civilians start getting shot at concert halls and pizza joints in Paris, people start asking questions. And Putin has been happy to provide answers.

    Of course the Russian President isn’t the only one who’s been shouting from the rooftops about the ill effects of foreign meddling in the Mid-East. No one understands how dangerous covert intervention can be better than Syria’s Bashar al-Assad.

    “If you are worried about [refugees], stop supporting terrorists,” Assad said in an interview with Russian news organizations in September. “That’s what we think regarding the crisis. This is the core of the whole issue of refugees.”

    In other words, were it not for the all-out effort to destabilize the government in Damascus by channelling weapons and money to militants, the war in Syria might not have ever happened and thus residents of bombed out former urban centers like Aleppo wouldn’t have been forced to run for their lives to Western Europe.

  16. ulvfugl says:

    Don’t I say this in almost every blog post ? Slowly they catch up… 🙂

    Earlier this month, some of the feuding physicists met with philosophers of science at an unusual workshop aimed at addressing the accusation that branches of theoretical physics have become detached from the realities of experimental science. At stake is the integrity of the scientific method, as well as the reputation of science among the general public, say the workshop’s organizers.

  17. ulvfugl says:

    Now, here’s what it all really means. With so much going wrong, the Ukraine has been unable to secure enough natural gas or coal supplies to provide a supply cushion in case of a cold snap this winter. A few weeks of frosty weather will deplete the supply, and then pipes will freeze, rendering much of the urban areas unlivable from then on (because, recall, there is no longer any money, or any industry to speak of, to repair the damage). That seems bad enough, but we aren’t quite there yet.

    You see, the Ukraine produces over half of its electricity using nuclear power plants. 19 nuclear reactors are in operation, with 2 more supposedly under construction. And this is in a country whose economy is in free-fall and is set to approach that of Mali or Burundi! The nuclear fuel for these reactors was being supplied by Russia. An effort to replace the Russian supplier with Westinghouse failed because of quality issues leading to an accident. What is a bankrupt Ukraine, which just stiffed Russia on billions of sovereign debt, going to do when the time comes to refuel those 19 reactors? Good question!

    But an even better question is, Will they even make it that far? You see, it has become known that these nuclear installations have been skimping on preventive maintenance, due to lack of funds. Now, you are probably already aware of this, but let me spell it out just in case: a nuclear reactor is not one of those things that you run until it breaks, and then call a mechanic once it does. It’s not a “if it ain’t broke, I can’t fix it” sort of scenario. It’s more of a “you missed a tune-up so I ain’t going near it” scenario. And the way to keep it from breaking is to replace all the bits that are listed on the replacement schedule no later than the dates indicated on that schedule. It’s either that or the thing goes “Ka-boom!” and everyone’s hair falls out.

    How close is Ukraine to a major nuclear accident?

  18. ulvfugl says:

    Al Tinfoil

    Looking at the map of the spread of fallout from the 1986 Chernobyl explosion, it is evident that the fallout plume did not immediately go East toward Russia, but first went Northwest, then Northeast into Scandinavia, then swirled around to cover most of Western Europe, including Italy, France, Great Britain and Ireland, Germany, and countries in between. Only Spain and Portugal escaped direct exposure. Belarus is reported to have received 70% of the fallout. The animated map shows the movement of the fallout from April 29 to May 9, 1986, I understand.

    Chernobyl Fallout map:

    In other words, the Western European NATO countries took a huge part of the dump of radiative fallout from Chernobyl, Russia got less, in the immediate aftermath of the explosion. Thus, it is at least as important for the Western European/NATO countries to be prepared to step in and ensure the safe operation or shut-down of Ukraine’s remaining (and increasingly risky) nuclear reactors, as it is for Russia to be ready to step in.

    The instability and chaos stirred up in Ukraine by the Washington neo-cons was intended to deliver Ukraine into the NATO/Anti-Russian/Western corporate-banker exploitation camp and to expel Russia from its Crimea naval base. Ukraine’s economy and political stability (such as they were) have been destroyed, with the Western Ukrainians and the Kiev government used as proxies in war against Russia which poses as a civil war between Kiev and the Eastern Ukraine Donetsk and Lugansk separatists. Russia refuses to permit Kiev to win their civil war, as that would see NATO move right up to the Ukraine/Russia border with missile and anti-missile systems. The EU is now caught up in a campaign of sanctions against Russia, which ironically is their most secure supplier of oil, natural gas, and nuclear fuel, and was the EU’s fastest growing trading partner up until the Kiev coup of February 2014.

    There appears to be a woeful absence of statesmanship among the leaders of the EU and the EU countries – each seems consumed with his or her petty concerns and with attempts to gain power in turf wars, rather than look to the greater benefit and security of the EU and its members. Many remain captive of the Atlanticist delusion – the idea that the road to lasting peace among the squabbling EU nations and the ultimate destiny of the EU is to remain under the leadership of the great Arsenal of Democracy – the USA – rather than adopting a more independent economic and foreign policy. The European Commission in Brussels maintains the delusion that it is entitled and destined to do God’s work by taking control of all European affairs and eliminating independence among EU nations, thus ensuring conformity and peace amongst all the EU nations. Meanwhile, ironically, the US-led NATO heads in Brussels do their very best to stir up World War 3 with Russia.

    At least those living in other parts of the World can take some comfort in the notion that the proxy wars that are now going on are mostly confined to Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. Of course, if a full-on World War 3 nuclear war ensues, everyone everywhere on Earth can enjoy their daily dose of radiation and glow in the dark.

    Cheers, and Merry Christmas.

  19. ulvfugl says:

    Long before Turkey was flagrantly arming and funding the CIA-created “terrorist organization” known as ISIS, there was another, far more elaborate way in which Turkey was flaunting international sanctions against an ostracized state – in this case Iran – which involved an epic gold smuggling triangle of Hollywood-thriller proportions, all made possible thanks to the United Arab Emirate city of Dubai.

    Best known known for its luxury shopping, ultramodern architecture including the world’s tallest building, a lively nightlife scene, and a facade of openness and decorum, what Dubai is less known for is its unprecedented seedy underbelly of corruption and untouched criminality among the handful of billionaire oligarchs, princes, sheiks and sultans, who quietly dominate the local (and global) power and financial structure.

    But first, a little history.

  20. ulvfugl says:

    This is, indeed, the biggest environmental catastrophe since the BP Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded in the Gulf of Mexico in 2010; and for now, there is no way to stop it.

    This methane disaster is worse than can be sufficiently described in words, because while it’s estimated well over 100,000 pounds of methane spew into the atmosphere every hour, the leak can’t be halted, at least until spring. Even then, that stoppage depends entirely on the efficacy of a proposed fix — which remains a dubiously open question.

  21. ulvfugl says:

    The casual disposal of time in science encourages the modern trend to forget history and its lessons and to consume whatever we want without regard to consequences. If the future is already set, why fight it? If every decision we seem to make is determined by laws of nature outside space and time, why try to take command of our destiny? We may as well just squeeze whatever we can from the moment at hand.

    These are scary times, and the last thing we need is to ignore tangible, flowing existence in favor of idealist fantasy. If we can’t overturn irrational thinking in science, how can we hope to restore sanity to our politics and economics? Whatever the outcome of this global experiment in technologically advanced civilization – triggered by material acquisition in concert with scientific investigation – the clock is ticking.

  22. ulvfugl says:

    So it seems another ‘scientific’ myth has been destroyed.

    Currently, the human population growth is about 1% per year. Prehistoric human population growth, from beginning of the end of the Ice Age was just 0.04% annually until about 200 years ago, when a number of factors led to higher growth rates, such as modern medicine. We have been taught that the agricultural revolution increased population growth to some extent… Until now.

    These conclusions challenge the commonly held view that the advent of agriculture 10,000-12,000 years ago accelerated human population growth.

  23. ulvfugl says:

    Meanwhile only 8.7% of languages start with a verb—like Welsh…..

  24. ulvfugl says:

    I don’t want to sound like a nihilist. There are a lot of useful things that we can do at this stage in history. Protecting biodiversity seems the crucial one. Protecting non-human nature from more destruction by the Machine, for example. Some of the best projects I know of creating islands and corridors of wild nature and trying to keep them free from our exploitation. Standing up in whatever small way we can to protect beauty and wildness from our appetites is a worthy cause if ever there was one: probably the most vital cause right now, I’d say. I’m all for fighting winnable battles. But we need to do so in the context of a wider, bigger picture: the end of the Holocene, the end of the world we were taught to believe was eternal; and, perhaps, the slow end of our belief that humans are in control of nature, can be or should be. You asked me about hope for the future: the thought that the disaster we have created may help us see ourselves for what we are — animals — and not what we believe we are — gods — gives me a kind of hope.

  25. ulvfugl says:

    Meanwhile, as the gap between the future we’re entering and the future we once imagined grows ever wider, nihilism takes root in the shadow of our fear: if all is already lost, nothing matters anyway.

    Scientific materialism, taken to its extreme, threatens us with meaninglessness; if consciousness is reducible to the brain and our actions are determined not by will but by causes, then our values and beliefs are merely rationalizations for the things we were going to do anyway. Most people find this view of human life repugnant, if not incomprehensible.

  26. ulvfugl says:

    What would Britain be worth if we put it on the market? Official estimate reveals how much each person would receive if we sold the entire country and everything in it

  27. ulvfugl says:

    SanctuaryOne on December 25, 2015 · at 11:17 pm UTC

    BBC calling! BBC calling!

    The Hegemon’s vassal British Bloviator Corp is keeping the Putin vilification theme up with crude insults.

    Hands up all those that would like to punch this pompous toffee-nosed malodorous twit on the nose:


    Uncle Bob 1 on December 26, 2015 · at 3:15 am UTC
    The stupidity of people in the West knows no bounds. I see all the time Westerners making fun of Putin’s “supposed” tough guy image. Putin grew up as a poor kid in Leningrad fighting. He spent 16 years as a field officer in the rough World of the intelligence service. He is a high level Judo player. His “tough guy” image isn’t “supposed” its very real. He doesn’t need to fake that “image”. Now on the other hand. Could you see “any” Western leader able to say that about themselves. The thought of Obama,Cameron,Hollande,or Merkel,able to kill an enemy attacker with their bare hands to protect their people, is totally laughable. I think Westerners have lived ruled by weak-kneed stooges for so long they don’t know what having a “real” mans-man for a leader is like.


    mmiriww on December 26, 2015 · at 4:51 am UTC

    Imagine nato generals fighting with their men..

    Both Iran and Syria had a lot of generals die in battle leading their men from the front lines and not in a safe house far away.. US would say the role of generals is not to fight but lead.. Yea lead from behind and send your men to die…

    Buggering British Children, lies and propaganda from the zionists and paedophiles.

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